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Steady Stan
03-07-2004, 07:27 PM
Knowing most of the rabid listeners are as anal as I am, I thought I'd start a thread where we can point out mistakes in the playlist, i.e. songs mis-titled, typos, and other errors.

For example: Camel Who Are We s/b Who We Are
or: Steve Morse listed as: Morse Band, The Steve and: Morse, Steve
I know there are a couple of Sigur Ros songs mislabeled (Mossy, help me here) :)

Not trying to be critical; I know what it's like to manage a large a database. If the mistakes are brought to light, perhaps they can fixed over time.

Yesspaz
03-07-2004, 10:56 PM
Excellent, Steady Stan! I'm glad I'm not the only one! To fill you in, there is already a thread about this. It's here:
Library Corrections and Inconsistencies (http://auralmoon.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=163&highlight=corrections)


Secondly, I think all the Sigur Ros is correct. I know Von, Angels of the Universe, and ( ) are, because I donated those. The only think I can think of that might be the corrections you are thinking of is that little symbol that looks like a defored "d" with a cross in it. It is pronounced "th" (http://www.sigur-ros.co.uk/band/pronunci.html) and so I put that pronunciation in the place of the "deformed d" because it's not a normal character. If you know of something else, I'd like to know it too!

Rick and Roll
03-07-2004, 11:41 PM
To quote "Bones" McCoy, "Damnit Jim"!

You fools can't get anything right!!!

(ok, now pull tongue out of cheek)

Rick and Roll
03-07-2004, 11:52 PM
I did remember one. Finch's "A Passion Condensed" is listed as "A Passion Condenser".

Is a Passion Condenser a device put on a car to keep one's daughter from staying out of the back seat???

Yesspaz
03-08-2004, 12:33 AM
the track by Magnetophone called "Oh Darlin'" is in the library twice. One is 2:01 in length and one is 2:04 in length. Maybe the first one cuts off too soon?


I've posted this before, but here goes again. That controversial 9-piece from Montreal on the Kranky label is called
Godspeed You Black Emperor! (http://www.allmusic.com/cg/amg.dll?p=amg&uid=UIDMISS70402202024351272&sql=B30q7g4fmtvjz)
not
Godspeed! You Black Emperor


The two Tony Palacios songs "Epic Tales of Whoa!" and "Late Night" are crossed referenced. "Epic" is Late Night and "Late Night" is Epic.

Avian
03-08-2004, 07:46 AM
Actually, it looks like both are wrong. Their official page:

http://www.cstrecords.com/html/godspeed.html (look at page title)

it's

Godspeed You! Black Emperor


Avian

moses
03-08-2004, 08:28 AM
I think Avian has it right, for the moment.

At some point they moved their ! for no apparent reason.

Exclamations without explanations...

Rick and Roll
03-08-2004, 08:58 AM
about the other corrections mentioned. Seems like everything in these forums gravitates back to Godspeed.

How about Goodness You're Boring Everyone!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Then insert exclamations as you see fit.

mossy
03-08-2004, 09:48 AM
Yes, Stan.

There is indeed an error in the sigur ros listings. Agaetis Byrjun is listed as Olsen Olsen.

I assume what is listed as Agaetis Byrjun is, in fact, Olsen Olsen.
Will do a request on it just to make sure.

moses
03-08-2004, 01:04 PM
I noticed that KBB's "Hatenaki Shoudou" is listed twice, with a one-second difference in the timing.

Same deal with Salem Hill's "Sweet Hope Suite" but that one presumably has the track with and without the silence/bonus track at the end.

One more... Rick Wakeman's "Bedtime Stories" just played, but it was titled "Beadtime Stories" ... just a typo, I'm sure.

Yesspaz
03-08-2004, 01:37 PM
Originally posted by Avian
Actually, it looks like both are wrong. Their official page:

http://www.cstrecords.com/html/godspeed.html (look at page title)

it's

Godspeed You! Black Emperor


Avian
Avian, are you hanging out with Mary Jane today? :D That link brings up a pic that cleary says Godspeed You Black Emperor!

Secondly, thier homepage is here. (http://brainwashed.com/godspeed/) I have all thier cds. I just looked them over to make sure. On F#A#(infinity), Slow Riot For New Zero Kanada, and Lift Your Skinny Fists Like Antennas to Heaven, thier name was "Godspeed You Black Emperor!" On thier last album, Yanqui U.X.O., they changed thier name to "Godspeed You! Black Emperor." So some websites have the first one and some of them have the last one.


I think the difference is this. The first three releases are on Kranky and the last one is on Southern. My guess is that it's a contractural thing and they couldn't record with Southern under GYBE! and had to rename themselves, so they picked GY!BE. Similar to the way Styx had to re-record "Lady" as "Lady '95" to get it on thier Greatest Hits album.

So my ideal would be to have all of the tracks listed as GYBE!, because if the bands was indexed both ways, two Godspeed tracks could play very close together because SAM would read it as two seperate artists.

moses
03-08-2004, 01:51 PM
Like the man said, look at the page title. That would be the thing at the top of the browser window. The pic on that page may be from the old version of the band, or it really is a letter from a fan, as it appears to be, and he just exclaimed his greeting. Nonetheless, delve further into the site, http://www.cstrecords.com/html/godtourdates.html for instance, and you'll see that the ! has indeed moved consistently to after the You.

Rick and Roll
03-08-2004, 01:52 PM
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Yesspaz
03-08-2004, 01:55 PM
WoW! touchy!



I just edited my post. Here's the new part


"I think the difference is this. The first three releases are on Kranky and the last one is on Southern. My guess is that it's a contractural thing and they couldn't record with Southern under GYBE! and had to rename themselves, so they picked GY!BE. Similar to the way Styx had to re-record "Lady" as "Lady '95" to get it on thier Greatest Hits album.

So my ideal would be to have all of the tracks listed as GYBE!, because if the bands was indexed both ways, two Godspeed tracks could play very close together because SAM would read it as two seperate artists."






PS, Rick, how bout I give you all of GYBE! cds on your birthday? :p

Yesspaz
03-08-2004, 02:00 PM
Explore the webpage indeed...

f#a# infinity (http://www.cstrecords.com/html/fsharphome.html)
Lift Your Skinny Fists Like Antennas to Heaven (http://www.cstrecords.com/html/cst012main.html)



Oh, and I must correct myself. All thier releases do appear to be on Constellation, a Kranky label. So the name change was not, as I speculated, contracturally motivated.


Anyway, the final analysis, as I move on to other things, is that 3 albums are Emperor! and one is You!. Th.thh. thh. that's all folks.



:rolleyes:

Rick and Roll
03-08-2004, 02:07 PM
Originally posted by Yesspaz
two Godspeed tracks could play very close together

No please don't force that on us!





PS, Rick, how bout I give you all of GYBE! cds on your birthday? :p

I was given that disc - remember the game hot potato?

:p

KeithieW
03-08-2004, 03:09 PM
It might just have been a typo that got through the proof reader.........

progdirjim
03-08-2004, 03:34 PM
Originally posted by Rick and Roll
about the other corrections mentioned. Seems like everything in these forums gravitates back to Godspeed.

How about Goodness You're Boring Everyone!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Then insert exclamations as you see fit.

I'd nominate this post for at least "top 5 funniest posts ever"

progdirjim
03-08-2004, 03:37 PM
but in all seriousness, please continue to point these things out. We fix them from time to time.

Dual songs usually results from having one song from a sampler or something, then I acquire the entire CD. I try to delete the duplicate, don't always remember.

Godspeed! You Black Emperor was my mistake, but I know I've seen the exclamation point after the G - I think they're trying to make up for their obvious lack of musical talent by being creative in naming themselves. Talk! about pretentious...:D

Yesspaz
03-08-2004, 05:37 PM
[B]I think they're trying to make up for their obvious lack of musical talent by being creative in naming themselves. Talk! about pretentious...[B]


[B]How about Goodness You're Boring Everyone!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Then insert exclamations as you see fit. [B]


Wow, is this a prog station or a comedy station!:D

Yesspaz
03-08-2004, 06:10 PM
Originally posted by Steady Stan

I know there are a couple of Sigur Ros songs mislabeled (Mossy, help me here) :)


Nope. These are all correct. In the liner of Agaetis Byrjun (the album, not the song), it lists nine track titles. There are ten songs. The first is a little intro to the album, so if you don't realize this, you have all the songs by the wrong title.

the sigur-ros official discography (http://www.sigur-ros.co.uk/band/disco/agaetis.html)

mossy
03-08-2004, 07:21 PM
I went to the site and checked out Olsen Olsen and it IS the track I have as Agaetis Byrjun on my cd, as does Keith.

We bought ours in London and it's released on fat cat records.

Our cd only has nine tracks, and omits the intro, so you can see why the confusion.

As the official site uses the 10 track version you have, I will accept that the sigur ros listings as the moon has them, are correct.

So people, after months of listening to me go on and on about this, we can put it to bed. The moon listings are correct according to the official sigur site. Thank you for your patience.

(But Keith, when you and I listen to our cds, it's really Agaetis Byrjun :0)

Yesspaz
03-08-2004, 07:57 PM
Oh Mossy. I think you're sweet. Sorry you're version omits the intro. I'll go request Intro/Svefn-G-Englar right now so you can hear it :rolleyes: :D :rolleyes: :D

zvinki
03-09-2004, 10:14 AM
Even though I normally don't participate in this type of nitpicking deal without real tangible benefit, I also realize that Avian may want to do some housecleaning and offer him this tasty morsel.

"Sugar Mice" and "Sugar Mice in the Rain" are listed as two different songs. Go crazy Avian!

Rick and Roll
03-09-2004, 10:24 AM
But I thought it was

Sugar! Mice

or is it Sugar Mice!

;)

progdirjim
03-09-2004, 01:29 PM
Originally posted by zvinki
Even though I normally don't participate in this type of nitpicking deal without real tangible benefit, I also realize that Avian may want to do some housecleaning and offer him this tasty morsel.

"Sugar Mice" and "Sugar Mice in the Rain" are listed as two different songs. Go crazy Avian!

haha we win!

on the remaster edition of "Clutching At Straws", these are indeed different tracks. One may be an unfinished or demo version, I don't remember. But this one is not a mistake. Temporary vindication!:D

zvinki
03-09-2004, 01:37 PM
I knew that I should have stuck to the sidelines. :(

progdirjim
03-09-2004, 03:14 PM
sorry for gloating, but after so many mistakes that were directly attributable to ME, I couldn't resist...:)

Yesspaz
03-09-2004, 04:45 PM
Cheer up Jim, they are not mistakes. They are the inevitable shortcomings of genius. Even Faulkner and Hemingway had to do second and third drafts and rewrites :D

mossy
03-09-2004, 04:52 PM
Jim, aren't you GLAD stan started this thread :rolleyes:

jnighting
03-09-2004, 05:10 PM
Nothing to add about any errors on song titiles or band names. As a person who works on web sites far too often I realize that mistakes do happen, especially with the volume of info that is on a site like AM.
However, I have to agree with Jim.....this has to be one of the funniest posts ever!!! It was getting out loud laughs here at work. Another reason that I truely love this site....great music, good chat/shouting and people from all over the world with great ideas, thoughts and senses of humor. Long live the Moon.

Rick and Roll
03-09-2004, 05:44 PM
Originally posted by jnighting
Nothing to add about any errors on song titiles or band names. A!s a person !who works on w!eb1 sites far too often I realize that m!!istakes !d!o happen, especially with the volume of info that is on a site like AM.
Howev!er, I have !to agree with Jim.....this has to be one of the funniest posts ever!!! It was getting !out loud laughs here at work. Another r!eason that I truel!y love this site....great music, good cha!t/shout!ing and p!eople from all over the world with great ideas, thoughts and senses of humor. Long! live th!e Moon.

T!H!E!R!E! W!E! G!O!!!!!

jnighting
03-09-2004, 05:54 PM
Thank you for correcting my punctuation Rick......or lack thereof.:p
While I'm at it.....thanks for keeping me laughing as well.:p :D

KeithieW
03-09-2004, 05:55 PM
If the day ever arrives please remember that it's Dream Theater not Dream Theatre....................OK?

Yesspaz
03-09-2004, 08:50 PM
I just noticed one more.

Yes - "Roundabout" should be "Round About"

Rick and Roll
03-09-2004, 10:34 PM
have I seen that song split into two. My copy is one word, all my friends' copies are one word, etc.

In fact, I've never seen that as two words in any usage (save for maybe, "why don't you come to my place round about midnight").

I'll be the


ROUNDABOUT

this post will make you out and out....................

KeithieW
03-10-2004, 02:53 AM
Originally posted by Rick and Roll
have I seen that song split into two. My copy is one word, all my friends' copies are one word, etc.

In fact, I've never seen that as two words in any usage (save for maybe, "why don't you come to my place round about midnight").

I'll be the


ROUNDABOUT

this post will make you out and out....................

My first reaction was that it's one word as well but knowing Yesspaz he's probably got an album released in Outer Mongolia where the track is listed as two words.

Come on my man.......evidence!!!!!

Rick and Roll
03-10-2004, 09:27 AM
the Ulaan Bator release does not list it as two words either..


maybe Tasmania?

Rick and Roll
03-10-2004, 01:03 PM
I get this weird feeling that Yesspaz is pulling our leg again.....

Yesspaz
03-10-2004, 02:44 PM
Originally posted by Rick and Roll
I get this weird feeling that Yesspaz is pulling our leg again.....


Wow. WOW! Talk about taking the bait.... Geez! :rolleyes:

Rick and Roll
03-10-2004, 02:49 PM
Nice one! Practical jokes are not my strong suit. I have a recessive naivete gene.

Yesspaz
03-10-2004, 05:03 PM
Originally posted by Yesspaz
The two Tony Palacios songs "Epic Tales of Whoa!" and "Late Night" are crossed referenced. "Epic" is Late Night and "Late Night" is Epic.
Hey, I take this back. I'm wrong here. The songs are correct on the station. I labeled my cd incorrectly.

Rick and Roll
03-10-2004, 05:25 PM
ok we had a thread by Stan here -

I had one small correction and I guess there are others. Do you have these Avian/Jim or do we need a recap?

progdirjim
03-12-2004, 12:31 AM
If someone wants to recap, that would be appreciated. I'm pretty darn busy lately....

moses
03-12-2004, 02:00 PM
An interesting one just came on the Moon... "King Crimson" by the band Trio is playing as I type this. They put out an album called "Starless and Bible Black" in 1974 too, apparently.

I won't even bring up Static's song "Godspeed. You, Black? Emperor!" :D

podakayne
03-12-2004, 09:51 PM
i'll point out a group name that's also wrong...
UK is UK...first lp is titled U.K. but alas, the group is not U "period" K "period". i do understand the mix up.

as well as Van Der Graaf Generator...that's with 2 "A"s and not 2 "ff"s as listed for the songs Aerosol Grey Machine and La Rossa (BBC)

there was also a mix up ( i think) in one of the Graaf songs but i cannot remember what it was...perhaps it was just the wrong listing in the WPN pop-up.

this is one of the funniest threads yet! this and guilty pleasures...thanks Stan you trouble maker you.:D

Yesspaz
03-21-2004, 03:07 AM
The Billy Mahonie song "Fishing With a Man for a Shack" should be "Fishing With a Man for a Shark."

"Shark" not "Shack"

Roger -Dot- Lee
03-21-2004, 06:52 PM
Originally posted by Yesspaz



Wow. WOW! Talk about taking the bait.... Geez! :rolleyes:

Uh, er, YEAH! I MEANT to do that! :P

Roger -Dot- Lee
03-22-2004, 03:25 PM
OK, folks, I spent a couple of hours diddling with the database, correcting alleged misspellings, typos and other such nonsense, including Rick 'n Roll's favorite Godspeed! You! Black! Emporer? and bits and pieces of others. If you find any other ... interestingness, post it here. Once a final word has been delivered as to how it SHOULD be spelled, I'll fix it.

Working his fingers to the bone...

Roger

Rick and Roll
03-22-2004, 03:52 PM
was corrected!

all hail king of ther minutae!

Nice job, rl!

KeithieW
03-25-2004, 03:31 AM
Return to Forever track is listed as "Shadow of Lo". I'm pretty sure it should be "Shadow of Io" - After Jupiter's moon.

Rick and Roll
03-25-2004, 10:34 AM
It is the shadow of LO, as in Lo and Behold, Lo Mein, etc.

LO !

Roger -Dot- Lee
03-25-2004, 04:29 PM
Originally posted by Rick and Roll
It is the shadow of LO, as in Lo and Behold, Lo Mein, etc.

LO !

Does someone have a link to a site that would have the track names on it? If someone has a link (like some sort of on-line database) to verify these things, it'd make my life easier.

Anyone have any ideas?

Rick and Roll
03-25-2004, 09:41 PM
I have the CD and that's what it says...Lo

Maybe it was the lyrics that is confusing:)

Roger -Dot- Lee
03-26-2004, 08:04 AM
Originally posted by Rick and Roll
I have the CD and that's what it says...Lo

Maybe it was the lyrics that is confusing:)

S'good 'nuff fer me.

Lo it is, Lo it shall stay.

I hath spaketh. Or something.

Roger, who's REALLY got to get off the night shift. It's makin' him a little strange....

moses
03-31-2004, 03:30 PM
No biggie here... it's just confusing.

The "West Coast Live" cd is listed as being by King Crimson, when technically it's ProjeKct Four.

The other ProjeKcts are listed separately, I guess this should be too.

Rick and Roll
04-08-2004, 02:54 PM
by Echolyn is listed as "Birttany".

How's that for a picayune one?

Roger -Dot- Lee
04-12-2004, 11:17 AM
Originally posted by Rick and Roll
by Echolyn is listed as "Birttany".

How's that for a picayune one?

How DO you keep finding them! :D

Oh, and it's fixed.

Roger

KeithieW
04-12-2004, 11:21 AM
I think the Camel track listed as Stationary Traveller is really just a copy of the track called "Refugee"...........they're both the same length.

Pity cos' the proper Stationary Traveller track is really good.

Roger -Dot- Lee
04-12-2004, 01:46 PM
Originally posted by Keith Waye
I think the Camel track listed as Stationary Traveller is really just a copy of the track called "Refugee"...........they're both the same length.

Pity cos' the proper Stationary Traveller track is really good.

They're pointing to two different things on disk and those two things are different sizes (they're very close in size, but the difference is enough).

I'll download them, though, and give them a listen.

Roger

Roger -Dot- Lee
04-12-2004, 01:55 PM
Originally posted by Roger Lee


They're pointing to two different things on disk and those two things are different sizes (they're very close in size, but the difference is enough).

I'll download them, though, and give them a listen.

Roger

Blast. You're right, KW. They're the same track, in spite of the different sizes. OK, Stationary Traveller gets yanked.

Roger

podakayne
04-12-2004, 03:30 PM
still waiting for Yes's Siberian Khatru to be added to the live versions...the Close to the Edge version is mysteriously absent.

KeithieW
04-13-2004, 04:37 AM
Seems we have two copies of Salmon song on the playlist from the same album. Are they different?

I think they may be the same thing. I could be wrong........it's been known :)

Roger -Dot- Lee
04-13-2004, 09:06 AM
Originally posted by podakayne
still waiting for Yes's Siberian Khatru to be added to the live versions...the Close to the Edge version is mysteriously absent.

I don't upload 'em, Poda, I just plunk 'em in and make sure they're updated once someone else approves and uploads 'em.

Although I DO have the live version of SK somewhere around here...I could probably yank and stuff...

Roger -Dot- Lee
04-13-2004, 09:11 AM
Originally posted by Keith Waye
Seems we have two copies of Salmon song on the playlist from the same album. Are they different?

I think they may be the same thing. I could be wrong........it's been known :)

Good catch, KW! It appears that one was off a demo, and the other was uploaded with the rest of the album. I've temporarily rectified the situation pending final disposition from El Queso Grande.

Roger

progdirjim
04-13-2004, 12:35 PM
Originally posted by Roger Lee


I don't upload 'em, Poda, I just plunk 'em in and make sure they're updated once someone else approves and uploads 'em.

Although I DO have the live version of SK somewhere around here...I could probably yank and stuff...

I have the studio version of Khatru, which is what's missing (no idea how that happened). I'll upload it one of these days...

progdirjim
04-13-2004, 12:37 PM
Originally posted by Roger Lee


Good catch, KW! It appears that one was off a demo, and the other was uploaded with the rest of the album. I've temporarily rectified the situation pending final disposition from El Queso Grande.

Roger

you are correct in removing the demo one Roger - I meant to point that out when I added the album and forgot...

moses
04-15-2004, 12:32 PM
Hey I posted a while back about having two versions of Salem Hill's "Sweet Hope Suite," with and without the bonus track tacked on. Well the problem now seems to be solved, since both versions of the song are gone.

Was that an accident, or did the 26-minute long song suddenly stop being prog or something? ;)

Roger -Dot- Lee
04-15-2004, 04:18 PM
Originally posted by moses
Hey I posted a while back about having two versions of Salem Hill's "Sweet Hope Suite," with and without the bonus track tacked on. Well the problem now seems to be solved, since both versions of the song are gone.

Was that an accident, or did the 26-minute long song suddenly stop being prog or something? ;)

Actually, it seems that SHS (both of our rips) are what's known as "Really Horked Up" (that's a technical term, of course) :D

Seriously, there's technical problems with the quality of the rips of that song. As soon as we get 'em fixed, SHS will be back with a vengeance (I'll likely request it a time or three myself).

Roger

moses
05-25-2004, 11:08 AM
The tune "...Or Something" by Schleigho just played. It played fine, but it's listed as being from the album "Schleigo." Well that's not even spelled right, but it's really from "In the Interest of Time."

Those periods are supposed to be in the song title, by the way. :p

Yesspaz
05-25-2004, 01:41 PM
Ommission (sp?) more than error, although it could be both... :D

Neal Schon's double album "Electric World" has 21 tracks on it, but the AM library only has 20 of them. The missing track is "High Mileage."

It's what a reviewer would call and 8-minute wank-fest, with a jazz fusion structure. I tried to request it for the journey/travel/frontier theme on Wednesday.... I look forward to seeing (hearing) this track here. Thanks.

Roger -Dot- Lee
05-25-2004, 07:28 PM
Moses: fixed.

'spaz: You're right. It's not there. If that's an error or an intentional ommission is up to PDJ :D

Roger -Dot- Lee

moses
05-26-2004, 11:39 AM
Sorry if I was unclear...
Sorry if I was nuclear...

...Or Something is not from Schleigho's self titled album. It is from In the Interest of Time. The correction that was made spelled the name right but put it on the wrong album.

Thanks!

Roger -Dot- Lee
05-26-2004, 12:45 PM
Originally posted by moses
Sorry if I was unclear...
Sorry if I was nuclear...


Witty things Roger -Dot- Lee might say to this:
[list=1]
Booooom!
That joke was a bomb.
...
[/list=1]

...Or Something is not from Schleigho's self titled album. It is from In the Interest of Time. The correction that was made spelled the name right but put it on the wrong album.

Thanks!



Fixed. Incidentally, I have no idea how that ended up with their self-titled album name showing up in the album field, since, in the database, the album field was blank.

The mystery deepens...

Roger -Dot- Lee

progdirjim
05-26-2004, 04:54 PM
Originally posted by Roger Lee




Fixed. Incidentally, I have no idea how that ended up with their self-titled album name showing up in the album field, since, in the database, the album field was blank.

The mystery deepens...

Roger -Dot- Lee

I can tell you WHY the album field was blank - I edited out the last (approx) 2 minutes of the song which is mostly silence (similar to the Sweet Hope Suite situation) - when I do that, the ripper I use does not automatically generate an MP3 tag. And I forgot to manually create one. I've fixed that and re-uploaded the track, Roger-dot, if you need it.

progdirjim
05-26-2004, 04:56 PM
Originally posted by Yesspaz
Ommission (sp?) more than error, although it could be both... :D

Neal Schon's double album "Electric World" has 21 tracks on it, but the AM library only has 20 of them. The missing track is "High Mileage."

It's what a reviewer would call and 8-minute wank-fest, with a jazz fusion structure. I tried to request it for the journey/travel/frontier theme on Wednesday.... I look forward to seeing (hearing) this track here. Thanks.

that was awhile ago, Spaz, but I think I felt the song had a stronger blues/straight rock feel rather than prog/jazzy feel, so i intentionally left it off. I think. I'll relisten to it, someday...

Yesspaz
05-26-2004, 07:26 PM
Originally posted by progdirjim
that was awhile ago, Spaz, but I think I felt the song had a stronger blues/straight rock feel rather than prog/jazzy feel, so i intentionally left it off. I think. I'll relisten to it, someday...

Really? Wow! :eek: :eek: I always thought of that one as one of the more progressive on the album. Hmm.., at least one of the most complex. Yeah, well, you're call as always. Yet, I'd sure like you to give it one more listen... :)

Roger -Dot- Lee
05-26-2004, 10:11 PM
Originally posted by progdirjim


I can tell you WHY the album field was blank - I edited out the last (approx) 2 minutes of the song which is mostly silence (similar to the Sweet Hope Suite situation) - when I do that, the ripper I use does not automatically generate an MP3 tag. And I forgot to manually create one. I've fixed that and re-uploaded the track, Roger-dot, if you need it.

I got it covered. It's just a matter of filling in the blanks on the station, and that's it. Thanks, though...

Roger -Dot- Lee

KeithieW
06-06-2004, 02:49 PM
I see that the Camel track Breathless runs to all of 2 seconds. :p

Roger -Dot- Lee
06-06-2004, 03:39 PM
Originally posted by Keith Waye
I see that the Camel track Breathless runs to all of 2 seconds. :p

Sure looks that way. It's all of 48k or so on disk, and that's two seconds on the 24k stream.

Of course, the track might also be corrupt, but that I don't know. I don't have the album handy.

Roger -Dot- Lee, correctin' what he can, and laughin' at what he can't.

KeithieW
06-06-2004, 03:49 PM
Hello again roger.......

According to my album Breathless should be 4:16. Looks like a corruption.

Roger -Dot- Lee
06-06-2004, 03:59 PM
Originally posted by Keith Waye
Hello again roger.......

According to my album Breathless should be 4:16. Looks like a corruption.

It's been yanked, PDJ has been notified. I'm going back to bed. :D

Roger -Dot Lee "Yawn"

progdirjim
06-07-2004, 12:43 PM
Breathless has been fixed...

Roger -Dot- Lee
06-07-2004, 01:21 PM
Originally posted by progdirjim
Breathless has been fixed...

Sorry, I should have mentioned that this moning when I slapped it back in.

OK, time for me to go to bed. I'm missing the easy stuff.

G'night!

Yesspaz
07-28-2004, 08:54 PM
There's a typo on a Sigur Ros song.

The real song title: "Leith ath lifi/Myrkur"
The title on AM:"Leith ath lifi/Mykur"

It should be "Myrkur," not "Mykur."

Rick and Roll
07-28-2004, 10:46 PM
I like that one better.

Roger -Dot- Lee
07-29-2004, 12:57 AM
Originally posted by Yesspaz
There's a typo on a Sigur Ros song.

The real song title: "Leith ath lifi/Myrkur"
The title on AM:"Leith ath lifi/Mykur"

It should be "Myrkur," not "Mykur."

OK, I'll give it the once over once SOMEONE is done piddling with Brainrock. :P

(or tomorrow morning, whichever comes most convenient)

Roger -Dot- Lee

prythm
07-29-2004, 08:36 AM
It looks like Tubular Bells is posted too many times.

O, wait, wrong thread. ;)

prythm
07-29-2004, 08:58 AM
Nitpicky stuff, ignore if you wish...

The band '3' , whose only album 'To The Power of Three', consisting of Emerson, Palmer, and Robert Berry is listed under Emerson Lake and Palmer. This probably was a conscious placement because it does make it easier to identify the album, unless of course you're looking for the band 3 which happened in my case.


see for proof amazon listing (http://www.amazon.co.uk/exec/obidos/ASIN/B000009RHT/wwwlink-software-21/026-7140615-3359633)

Rick and Roll
07-29-2004, 09:00 AM
you wouldn't list the Emerson Lake and Powell record under the other ELP either, it should be separate.

Now the question is, why would you want to find it? :D

Roger -Dot- Lee
07-29-2004, 09:48 AM
Originally posted by Rick and Roll
you wouldn't list the Emerson Lake and Powell record under the other ELP either, it should be separate.

They should be seperate. The Power of 3 CD now shows Emerson Lake and someone else. :P

I'll investigate the other one.

KeithieW
07-30-2004, 03:29 AM
Originally posted by Roger Lee
They should be seperate. The Power of 3 CD now shows Emerson Lake and someone else. :P


Nice one Roger.

Now maybe we should rename all Genesis albums after Wind and Wuthering as "PC inc." :p

Rick and Roll
07-30-2004, 08:29 AM
I know there's some real klinkers by Phil, but I think old Phil gets too much blame for the post-Hackett era Genesis. How about spreading some blame to mister "Acting Very Stangely" and Mr. Banks? I mean look at the debacle called "Calling All Stations". That's not Phil's fault.

Some of the post-Hackett stuff is very good. But the songs suffer when you have Mike R. playing lead on "Abacab" (boring)!

Yesspaz
07-30-2004, 12:24 PM
Just found a new one.

Ozric Tentacles:

Theres a Planet Here - Wrong (needs and apostrophe)
There's a Planet Here - Correct

Rick and Roll
07-30-2004, 12:49 PM
Originally posted by Yesspaz
Just found a new one.

Ozric Tentacles:

Theres a Planet Here - Wrong (needs and apostrophe)
There's a Planet Here - Correct

Needs AN apostrophe (while we're being anal).

The crux of the biscuit is the apostrophe!

Roger -Dot- Lee
07-30-2004, 01:03 PM
Originally posted by Yesspaz
Just found a new one.

Ozric Tentacles:

Theres a Planet Here - Wrong (needs and apostrophe)
There's a Planet Here - Correct

I'll fix misspellings in names, but unless there's a VERY serious reason to do so with punctuation, I won't get worked up about it, simply from the standpoint that I'm not 100% certain that it won't break the database.

Rick Sez:
Needs AN apostrophe (while we're being anal).

The crux of the biscuit is the apostrophe!


I wasn't going to touch that one. I've been burned too many times by misspellings in spelling flames.

Roger -Dot- Lee
07-30-2004, 01:11 PM
Originally posted by Roger Lee
I'll fix misspellings in names, but unless there's a VERY serious reason to do so with punctuation, I won't get worked up about it, simply from the standpoint that I'm not 100% certain that it won't break the database.


And upon further reflection, this is silly. With all the other apostrophies out there, it won't break the database.

Consider it fixed.

Yesspaz
07-30-2004, 02:58 PM
Originally posted by Yesspaz
Just found a new one.

Ozric Tentacles:

Theres a Planet Here - Wrong (needs and apostrophe)
There's a Planet Here - Correct


AN apostrophe indeed :eek: :rolleyes:

teermin8r
07-30-2004, 05:01 PM
It should be easy to see
The crux of the biscuit
Is the Apostrophe(')

:D

Rick and Roll
07-30-2004, 09:10 PM
is there an echo in here?

teermin8r
07-30-2004, 09:42 PM
yesyesyesyesyeysyesyesyeyseysyesyeys

progdirjim
07-30-2004, 10:24 PM
Find a typo in this:

Get a life.

:cool: :D

teermin8r
07-30-2004, 10:34 PM
William Shatner: "Get a life ... will ya, people? I mean, for cryin' out loud, it's just a TV show."

http://www.wavsource.com/tv/snl/get_a_life.wav

Rick and Roll
08-02-2004, 01:52 PM
picky.

"Iscence" by Ozric Tentacles played today. Was spelled "Escence".

Of course Ozric def is probably still "let's get high".:cool:

Steady Stan
08-03-2004, 07:11 AM
Thank you, pdj, for re-ripping "Grace".

The first rips are still listed on the playlist however.

Roger -Dot- Lee
08-03-2004, 04:34 PM
Originally posted by Steady Stan
Thank you, pdj, for re-ripping "Grace".

The first rips are still listed on the playlist however.

Fixed.

Roger -Dot- Lee

Yesspaz
08-03-2004, 04:54 PM
The GYBE! song "Static" is in the library twice. Once as the 22:36 album version (this is the correct one to keep), and once as a 17:14 version (is this an edit? something from a sampler? I have no idea what this is...).



-Yesspaz, thinking Roger.Lee will be exceedingly happy at the opportunity to delete a GYBE! track.

Roger -Dot- Lee
08-03-2004, 05:03 PM
Originally posted by Yesspaz
The GYBE! song "Static" is in the library twice. Once as the 22:36 album version (this is the correct one to keep), and once as a 17:14 version (is this an edit? something from a sampler? I have no idea what this is...).



-Yesspaz, thinking Roger.Lee will be exceedingly happy at the opportunity to delete a GYBE! track.

Yah, likely. However:


I'm going to wait for a ruling from PDJ on this. Two different songs? Different albums?
The station, at this moment, is running exceedingly hot. Don't want to make changes until/unless it settles in/gets rebooted.
I'd be exceedingly happy to remove one. I'd be tickled shitless to nuke the whole lot. :P :D


Roger -Dot- Lee, Burgeoning Music Critic.

KeithieW
08-03-2004, 05:05 PM
Originally posted by Yesspaz
The GYBE! song "Static" is in the library twice. Once as the 22:36 album version (this is the correct one to keep), and once as a 17:14 version (is this an edit? something from a sampler? I have no idea what this is...).



-Yesspaz, thinking Roger.Lee will be exceedingly happy at the opportunity to delete a GYBE! track.

Keep the 17min version dotty. 5 mins less pain to endure.

Yesspaz
08-03-2004, 05:07 PM
Wow, I figured it'd take about 15 minutes for KW, R.L, or Rick to throw a jab. Only 9 minutes. Nicely done {Yesspaz claps for effect}.

Yesspaz
08-03-2004, 05:10 PM
Originally posted by Roger Lee
Yah, likely. However:

[list]
Two different songs? Different albums?
No, it's the same song and is even listed as being from the same album. I was just trying to figure where it came from.... Jim'll know; he got it from somewhere.

We could dj them back to back just to make sure. :p

Roger -Dot- Lee
08-03-2004, 05:41 PM
Originally posted by Yesspaz
We could dj them back to back just to make sure. :p

Boy, you're just lookin' fer a butt whumpin', aren'tcha?

Yesspaz
08-03-2004, 06:29 PM
Buh-ring it!

Roger -Dot- Lee
08-03-2004, 07:43 PM
Originally posted by Yesspaz
Buh-ring it!

Oh, I'm not going to be the one to do it. Even with your current leg condition (ObShudder: shudder), with my back it would be a close call.

No, I'm referring to everyone else that would be forced to listen to the entire nearly 40 minutes back to back.

I'd be careful about opening your mail. I'm sure with the technical expertise around here, we'd be able to figure out how to send it via email! :p

Roger -Dot- Lee, hoping the warning sinks in...

Yesspaz
08-03-2004, 08:49 PM
Good heavens! You don't actually THINK I'm gonna dj them?!?!?! I wouldn't want to hear the same song back to back no matter WHAT it was! I just put the bait out there and ya took it again! :p

We could dj them back to back just to make sure.

Boy, you're just lookin' fer a butt whumpin', aren'tcha?




Seriously, I'm just trying to save hard drive space and kill the duplicate, that's all.

progdirjim
08-04-2004, 12:41 AM
Kill the short version - it was originally donated by someone awhile back, and I don't know why it's shorter.

KeithieW
08-04-2004, 03:58 AM
Originally posted by progdirjim
Kill the short version - it was originally donated by someone awhile back, and I don't know why it's shorter.
Maybe that someone is a humanitarian.:D

Rick and Roll
08-04-2004, 07:09 AM
Originally posted by Rick and Roll
picky.

"Iscence" by Ozric Tentacles played today. Was spelled "Escence".

Of course Ozric def is probably still "let's get high".:cool:

Forgotten in the shuffle? Please fix when there is time, please.



Oh and Spaz, sometimes I don't get to the email so quick or I lose some replies. So I didn't see yours.

Roger -Dot- Lee
08-04-2004, 08:53 AM
[Escence vs Iscence]

Originally posted by Rick and Roll
Forgotten in the shuffle? Please fix when there is time, please.


Fixed

Roger -Dot- Lee

Roger -Dot- Lee
08-04-2004, 08:54 AM
Originally posted by progdirjim
Kill the short version - it was originally donated by someone awhile back, and I don't know why it's shorter.

Killed.

Roger -Dot- Lee

Roger -Dot- Lee
08-04-2004, 08:58 AM
Originally posted by Yesspaz
Good heavens! You don't actually THINK I'm gonna dj them?!?!?! I wouldn't want to hear the same song back to back no matter WHAT it was! I just put the bait out there and ya took it again! :p


Well, spaz, stranger things have happened. I've seen all six Tubular Bells RQed back to back, in order (obviously someone at work knowing how these things operate). And a couple of days ago, we had two GY!BE RQs in the same hour. These, however, came from different sources, so I can't blame a single person for it, and since I don't have access to phone records, I have no way of proving collusion.


Seriously, I'm just trying to save hard drive space and kill the duplicate, that's all.

An admirable goal under any circumstances.

Roger -Dot- Lee

Yesspaz
08-04-2004, 10:47 AM
Yeah, that second GYBE! request was mine. I was like, "Yea! my GYBE! request is next!" and then it turned out to be "Storm" instead of "Sleep." Immediately I chuckled wondering how many people would just groan.

KeithieW
08-04-2004, 10:50 AM
Originally posted by Yesspaz
Immediately I chuckled wondering how many people would just groan.

Or reach for the mute button.

zvinki
08-04-2004, 11:22 AM
Or turn up the volume, sit back and enjoy. :)

Rick and Roll
08-04-2004, 12:29 PM
the heavy water running down the st lawrence river....;)

Roger -Dot- Lee
08-05-2004, 12:33 PM
Originally posted by Rick and Roll
the heavy water running down the st lawrence river....;)

Their water's heavier than ours? That might explain why their beer is so much better than ours.

Of course, this does NOT explain the Mononghahela (I think that's how it's spelled. I'm not sure). That water's heavier than ours too (when it's not on fire, that is), but their beer is hideous.

zvinki
08-05-2004, 12:46 PM
I agree with dot-man, the beer is more likely the cause than the water. Either that or it's a rare showing of Canadian patriotism.

moses
08-11-2004, 03:33 PM
There is a Gilgamesh track playing right now... it's the "Island of Rohdes/Paper Boat/.." one. No big deal, but "Rhodes" is spelled wrong.

This is one where the ID3v2 could also be implemented to finish off the rest of the song title. I think there are a couple from that cd with some rather long titles that would benefit from ID3v2.

Yesspaz
08-11-2004, 03:37 PM
I'm with ya Moses, but don't get Dotter started on redoing the tags!!!:eek:

Roger -Dot- Lee
08-12-2004, 01:05 AM
Originally posted by Yesspaz
I'm with ya Moses, but don't get Dotter started on redoing the tags!!!:eek:

Tell ya what, 'spaz: I'll let YOU dig the post up.

Seriously, I'm not aware that the station even supports v3.2 tags, and given the station instability of late, I'm not sure I'd like to experiment.

I'll investigate, however.

Roger -Dot- Lee "It's in the archives."

moses
08-12-2004, 08:56 AM
Roger.Lee said:
I'm not aware that the station even supports v3.2 tags

I don't know if that's a typo or a confusion. I'm not aware that there is such a thing as v3.2. There might be, but I'm not aware of it.

I was referring to ID3 version 2. The station apparently DOES support those, because they are on all the newer songs on the station. By 'newer' I mean since at least 5/19/2004 when Don Caballero's monstrously long song titles got added using ID3 version 2 tags and didn't get truncated.

As far as SAM2 is concerned, any ID3 tags you want to throw at it are fine, unless perhaps you're on a really old version or something.

Anyhow, should this thread perhaps be locked up or something, since we're worried that editing tags will bring the station down? I'm sure we'd rather live with a minor misspelling than bring the station down. (Though I must admit that I think you're getting overly worried about nothing.)

Roger -Dot- Lee
08-12-2004, 12:13 PM
Originally posted by moses
Roger.Lee said:


I don't know if that's a typo or a confusion. I'm not aware that there is such a thing as v3.2. There might be, but I'm not aware of it.


Typo, confusion, and the fact that it was 1am. Guilty as charged. I meant ID3V2.



Anyhow, should this thread perhaps be locked up or something, since we're worried that editing tags will bring the station down? I'm sure we'd rather live with a minor misspelling than bring the station down. (Though I must admit that I think you're getting overly worried about nothing.)

I probably am. I wasn't aware that ID3V2 tags had been installed (though it makes sense that it does).

And I always get overly worried about petty things. It's part of my job.

Roger -Dot- Lee, who's damn good at it, too.

progdirjim
08-12-2004, 12:29 PM
here's the deal.

at one point, the software we use to manage mp3 tags didn't support ID3V2. we have newer software that does. that's why all the newer ones have the longer fields.

I have been re-ripping the entire library at 192K bit rate (vs 128K), and those re-rips will have the new tags. There will probably still be plenty that retain the old tags, based on when the new software came into play (I forget when that was.) As we see them, and as we have time, we will fix them. No promises as to when, as that is a lower priority than other station tasks, and we all have day jobs and families.

Redoing the tags won't bring the station down, but adding the truncated information is a MANUAL process, as well as BORING, so it will continue to be a lower priority.

Hope that explains it...

roger
08-12-2004, 12:40 PM
Originally posted by progdirjim
I have been re-ripping the entire library

yowza...

VAXman
08-12-2004, 02:22 PM
Pink Floyd "Remember A Day" off of Saucerful of Secrets played today
at anout 12:20edt. It was described as "Set the Controls for the Heart
of the Sun" in What's Playing Now? as well as in the stream as shown
by my iTunes software display.

Roger -Dot- Lee
08-12-2004, 05:21 PM
Originally posted by VAXman
Pink Floyd "Remember A Day" off of Saucerful of Secrets played today
at anout 12:20edt. It was described as "Set the Controls for the Heart
of the Sun" in What's Playing Now? as well as in the stream as shown
by my iTunes software display.

Now that's bizarre. According to the history, it was in fact "Set the Controls" that played, and not "Remember a day". They are both tracks off of Saucerful of Secrets. The times recorded match. I'll download both tracks and see if I can figure out what's going on (I suspect that we might have a track swap), although I'm nowhere near familiar enough with the album to say which is which.

I shall, however, investigate.

Roger -Dot- Lee, on the job. :D

progdirjim
08-12-2004, 06:12 PM
Originally posted by Roger Lee
Now that's bizarre. According to the history, it was in fact "Set the Controls" that played, and not "Remember a day". They are both tracks off of Saucerful of Secrets. The times recorded match. I'll download both tracks and see if I can figure out what's going on (I suspect that we might have a track swap), although I'm nowhere near familiar enough with the album to say which is which.

I shall, however, investigate.

Roger -Dot- Lee, on the job. :D

here's the deal:

Somehow, all the track names are one track away from the correct place; so track 1 has track 2's name; track 2 has track 3's name; etc. Not sure how that happened, but you can bet it was operator (me) error.

I've corrected this and re-uploaded Roger dot - replace when ready...

Roger -Dot- Lee
08-13-2004, 01:25 AM
Originally posted by progdirjim
here's the deal:

Somehow, all the track names are one track away from the correct place; so track 1 has track 2's name; track 2 has track 3's name; etc. Not sure how that happened, but you can bet it was operator (me) error.

I've corrected this and re-uploaded Roger dot - replace when ready...

Ready, replaced, and ready for requests.

Roger -Dot- Lee, as alliterative as one can expect from a geek.

Bob Lentil
08-13-2004, 10:48 AM
After the recent Pain of Salvation update, we now have two copies of Ashes. One from the full album and one from the single, I think. I'm pretty sure the tracks are extremely close to, if not, identical, and we could do without one of them.

Roger -Dot- Lee
08-13-2004, 01:48 PM
Originally posted by Bob Lentil
After the recent Pain of Salvation update, we now have two copies of Ashes. One from the full album and one from the single, I think. I'm pretty sure the tracks are extremely close to, if not, identical, and we could do without one of them.

One of them (the older one) has been temporarily removed from the RQ bin. Once I hear from Jim one way or the other, I'll either restore it or remove it entirely. They appear to be off the same album.

Roger -Dot- Lee

progdirjim
08-14-2004, 01:21 AM
I would delete the older one if I were you. Not sure where that came from, nor what you might catch...;)

Roger -Dot- Lee
08-14-2004, 01:58 AM
Originally posted by progdirjim
I would delete the older one if I were you. Not sure where that came from, nor what you might catch...;)

That, sir, is why you always make sure you have a handy supply of latex gloves handy. *snap!*

Roger -Dot- Lee Bend over and cough.

progdirjim
08-14-2004, 02:45 AM
Does anyone else think we're funny? Or, I suppose, more importantly, does anyone else think we're stupid?

:rolleyes:

we'll stop, maybe, if you're not amused...

Roger -Dot- Lee
08-14-2004, 03:18 AM
Originally posted by progdirjim
Does anyone else think we're funny? Or, I suppose, more importantly, does anyone else think we're stupid?

:rolleyes:

we'll stop, maybe, if you're not amused...

My reality check just bounced.

Seriously, I write to amuse myself. If I happen to amuse someone else (and I'm told that I've been known to bring a smile to a face on occasion), then bully-hail-fellow-rock-my-world. But I write for ME, and will likely continue to do just that.

If someone thinks that what I write is stupid, they're welcome to their own opinions, no matter how wrong they are.

If they think *I'M* stupid, again, they're entitled to their opinion, no matter how wrong it is, and I'll gladly debate them to show them.

Roger -Dot- Lee who may well be easily amused.

KeithieW
08-14-2004, 04:04 AM
Originally posted by Roger Lee
I'll gladly debate them to show them.

Roger -Dot- Lee who may well be easily amused.

Get enough of us together and we can have a Mass Debate.........maybe not we'd end up being a bunch of w**k**s. :D

teermin8r
08-14-2004, 08:39 AM
I vote for funny. Always brings a smile to me. :D Keep it up.

Rick and Roll
08-14-2004, 12:36 PM
Originally posted by progdirjim
Does anyone else think we're funny? Or, I suppose, more importantly, does anyone else think we're stupid?

:rolleyes:

we'll stop, maybe, if you're not amused...

Hey I don't mind.....keep it going...contrary to popular opinion I don't reply to EVERYTHING...;)

teermin8r
08-14-2004, 12:47 PM
Uh, Rick. Uh, you just did. :D

Steady Stan
08-18-2004, 09:22 AM
that if you're searching for a particular artist, that has more than 50 results, when you click on next, it takes you to the second page of the entire playlist, not the searched artist?

Or is it me?

KeithieW
08-18-2004, 09:24 AM
Originally posted by Steady Stan
Or is it me?

No Stan it's not just you....... :D

Miss you mate!!!!!

Yesspaz
08-18-2004, 09:40 AM
Originally posted by Steady Stan
that if you're searching for a particular artist, that has more than 50 results, when you click on next, it takes you to the second page of the entire playlist, not the searched artist?

Or is it me?
it's not just you. this happens to me too.

Rick and Roll
08-18-2004, 10:02 AM
it is a very frustrating thing.

Roger -Dot- Lee
08-18-2004, 10:22 AM
Originally posted by Steady Stan
that if you're searching for a particular artist, that has more than 50 results, when you click on next, it takes you to the second page of the entire playlist, not the searched artist?

Or is it me?

I've noticed that too. As I don't speak php very well, I don't know why it's doing that. I always just set my searches to 100 and/or narrow my search down some.

Roger -Dot- Lee

Steady Stan
08-18-2004, 05:19 PM
It used to work properly, so I'm sure it can be fixed.

Roger -Dot- Lee
08-18-2004, 05:21 PM
Originally posted by Steady Stan
It used to work properly, so I'm sure it can be fixed.

I'm quite sure it can as well.

I'm just not sure how.

Roger -Dot- Lee

Yesspaz
08-19-2004, 02:01 AM
Now that the move to add Dream Theater has happened, I wonder if it's not time for "Truth in Advertising"? Dream Theater has been on AM for quite a while, but incognito! There is a song here listed as "Steve Howe - Yes Medley." It's actually Steve Howe guesting with Dream Theater. It's a live DT track and Steve is introduced, comes on stage, and plays with them. It probably should be called "Dream Theater - Yes Medley (f/Steve Howe)" or somesuch. Thanks.


...now the truth can be told...



PS, just wondering, but the original I heard on "some other station" was upwards of 8 or 10 minutes. This one just cuts off at the 5:18 mark really abruptly. Anyone know why?

Yesspaz
08-19-2004, 02:08 AM
There are two Tarentel songs here that have an "error." These two tracks were originally released as a 7" vinyl, showing two sides of Tarentel's ambient side (follow that?). Side one was guitar-ambient and side two was keyboard-ambient. Thus, they were creatively named:

Two Sides of Myself, Side One
Two Sides of Myself, Side Two

However, when another label picked up Tarentel's back catalog of vinyl releases and put them out on cd, they screwed it up and put:

Two Sides of Myself, Part One
Two Sides of Myself, Part Two

This is the same style mistake as Steve Howe's "Clap/The Clap" type thing. Anyhoozal, the AM library has them as Part One and Part Two, rather than Side One and Side Two. The original "Side" play on words is the band's intention, as they corrected this mistake on their old website. I wasn't aware of this discrepency when I donated Tarentel or I would've noted it then.

Thanks R.L. Keep up the good work. It's stress relief after helping engineers understand the point of two power supplies.

Roger -Dot- Lee
08-19-2004, 06:07 AM
Originally posted by Yesspaz
There are two Tarentel songs here that have an "error." These two tracks were originally released as a 7" vinyl, showing two sides of Tarentel's ambient side (follow that?). Side one was guitar-ambient and side two was keyboard-ambient. Thus, they were creatively named:


Hrm. It looks like they didn't catch the subtlety when they burned the CD.

Fixed!

Roger -Dot- Lee

Steady Stan
08-19-2004, 07:58 AM
There are three songs listed under the band name of Reinassance. Obviously, that should be changed to Renaissance.

Also, the song "The Vulture Fly High", should be plural, as there's a whole flock of 'em.

Roger, all of us anal retentive types salute you & your efforts!!

SS

Rick and Roll
08-19-2004, 09:12 AM
Originally posted by Yesspaz
Dream Theater has been on AM for quite a while, but incognito!

it's called Liquid Tension Experiment. That's just DT without the vocals.

to me, DT is not unappealing cause of the vocals. It's the overblown arrangements and soloing. Otherwise, I would have given up on IQ a long time ago (can't stand the vocals on Wake and Lush Attic, but they're great records).

Rick and Roll
08-19-2004, 09:17 AM
Originally posted by Steady Stan
Also, the song "The Vulture Fly High", should be plural, as there's a whole flock of 'em.SS

If the song is titled with "Vultures" (I'm sure you're right), fine.

But if they were describing the culture of vulture (isn't there a Alan Parsons record called Vulture Culture?) then could it acceptable to say the Vulture Fly High?

Just being totally anal for no reason.:p

Roger -Dot- Lee
08-20-2004, 11:20 AM
Originally posted by Rick and Roll
If the song is titled with "Vultures" (I'm sure you're right), fine.

But if they were describing the culture of vulture (isn't there a Alan Parsons record called Vulture Culture?) then could it acceptable to say the Vulture Fly High?


In a perfect world, with perfect english usage, I'd have to chime in with an emphatic "no", since while, as a unit, it would be known as a "culture" (in this example), you're still referring to a plural in reference to "vulture" (ie vultures). Some examples:

A Pride of Lions
A Gaggle of Tittering Teenagers
A Wunch of Bankers


Just being totally anal for no reason.:p

Like you ever need a reason? I mean REALLY, I created the word "anality" with you in mind.

Roger -Dot- Lee, a Natter of Linguists?

Rick and Roll
08-20-2004, 12:16 PM
Originally posted by Roger Lee


A Gaggle of Tittering Teenagers


Roger -Dot- Lee, a Natter of Linguists? [/B]

Roger you shouldn't look at teenagers like that (especially the boys).

As Ian Gillian said "a common cunning linguist, a master of many tongues".

That's art, baby!

Roger -Dot- Lee
08-20-2004, 05:38 PM
Originally posted by Rick and Roll
Roger you shouldn't look at teenagers like that (especially the boys).

As Ian Gillian said "a common cunning linguist, a master of many tongues".

That's art, baby!

I don't look at teenagers. I prefer my ladies a bit more like my wife.

Roger -Dot- Lee

Yesspaz
08-26-2004, 05:01 PM
Should the album Offramp (http://www.allmusic.com/cg/amg.dll?p=amg&sql=10:30xsa9rgy23a), which is now attributed to Pat Metheny, be attributed to Pat Metheny Group? Just wondering...

Roger -Dot- Lee
08-26-2004, 05:04 PM
Originally posted by Yesspaz
Should the album Offramp (http://www.allmusic.com/cg/amg.dll?p=amg&sql=10:30xsa9rgy23a), which is now attributed to Pat Metheny, be attributed to Pat Metheny Group? Just wondering...

I'm not sure. I think I'll defer the judgement call on that one to Jim.

Roger -Dot- Lee, if'n it ain't Yes....

progdirjim
08-26-2004, 05:38 PM
Originally posted by Yesspaz
Should the album Offramp (http://www.allmusic.com/cg/amg.dll?p=amg&sql=10:30xsa9rgy23a), which is now attributed to Pat Metheny, be attributed to Pat Metheny Group? Just wondering...

As long as we're consistent with all Pat Metheny - although I think this is the only one I've added so far - they all should be either with or without the Group.

Roger -Dot- Lee
08-26-2004, 05:58 PM
Originally posted by progdirjim
As long as we're consistent with all Pat Metheny - although I think this is the only one I've added so far - they all should be either with or without the Group.

OK, bearing that in mind, I'll set it up to be with (in case he does some other solo projects without).

Of course, this is a completely arbitrary decision and certainly not etched in diamond. I'll go ahead and update the album with the appropriate name when I get home this evening.

Roger -Dot- Lee

Yesspaz
08-26-2004, 10:51 PM
Yeah, I was thinking that same thing and that's why I posted it. "Pat Metheny" and "Pat Metheny Group" would be the same problem as "King Crimson P2" and "King Crimson PROJEkCT TWO" - that being that SAM would recognize them as totally seperate artists.

Rick and Roll
08-26-2004, 10:57 PM
you can find them really easy.

KeithieW
08-27-2004, 03:30 AM
Originally posted by Yesspaz
Should the album Offramp (http://www.allmusic.com/cg/amg.dll?p=amg&sql=10:30xsa9rgy23a), which is now attributed to Pat Metheny, be attributed to Pat Metheny Group? Just wondering...

Only if you want Metheny nuts RQing two tracks one after the other. :D

Rick and Roll
08-27-2004, 09:50 AM
Originally posted by Keith Waye
Only if you want Metheny nuts RQing two tracks one after the other. :D

Never thought of that. If you say, limit Metheny by himself to one song per solar year, and the Pat Metheny Group to one song per crescent moon, then you could say Lyle Mays could not play on Wednesdays, unless he played with Trey Gunn in ProjEcTKtKT23854523.6, then you have to limit it to say three times per solstice, and...............................

Yesspaz
08-27-2004, 12:50 PM
Originally posted by Rick and Roll
If you say, limit Metheny by himself to one song per solar year, and the Pat Metheny Group to one song per crescent moon, then you could say Lyle Mays could not play on Wednesdays, unless he played with Trey Gunn in ProjEcTKtKT23854523.6, then you have to limit it to say three times per solstice, and...............................
Thank you for illustrating my point about the Yes/Conspiracy/ABWH thing.

Rick and Roll
08-27-2004, 01:50 PM
one can take an example to the extreme. No matter what the subject may be, there are always things you can say that will be absurd.

I was actually illustrating that point (and being goofy)....and that any limits set can always be circumvented if one is malicious or persistent enough.

In my view, laws and restrictions are needed under two circumstances....1) all other avenues have been exhausted, and 2) there is proper enforcement.

But this is a reply for another thread and another day.

Any connection to your point Spaz is purely coincidental. The typist regrets the similarity.

Roger -Dot- Lee
08-27-2004, 06:17 PM
Originally posted by Rick and Roll
Any connection to your point Spaz is purely coincidental. The typist regrets the similarity.

Don't let it happen again, or we'll force you to sit through VM and me discussing heavy duty geekery in white. No 10-100 breaks.

:p

Roger -Dot- Lee

KeithieW
08-28-2004, 05:53 AM
Originally posted by Roger Lee
Don't let it happen again, or we'll force you to sit through VM and me discussing heavy duty geekery in white. No 10-100 breaks.

:p

Roger -Dot- Lee

Or tie you to your chair while Spaz is in DJ mode.

Rick and Roll
08-28-2004, 02:09 PM
being 7 years old and hearing Bloodrock's "DOA" or being forced to watch "Dark Shadows".

Yesspaz
08-28-2004, 05:30 PM
While digging for the album cover for Supersister's "Superstarshine," I noticed a few corrections that need to be made. First of all, it seems the album is called "Superstarshine, Vol. 3" rather than "Superstarshine." There is not Vol. 1 or 2. I think it's a joke by the band, the same way that the ska band Five Iron Frenzy named their second album "Our Newest Album Ever," and some band whose name escapes me at the moment named their debut album "Greatest Hits, Vol. 2."

Secondly, some of the song titles are different. Here are the titles on AM:

Gonna Take Easy
WOW live recording

and here are the actual titles I found and several different sites:

(I'm) Gonna Take Easy
Wow (The Intelligent Song)




Also, I know it's the wrong thread, but there are 9 songs on the album, and only 7 on AM. Were they missed accidently or purposely excluded? Too crappy to play or are we missing some gems? Anyway, the songs are:

A Girl Named You (10:07)
No Tree Will Grow (7:38)

moses
08-30-2004, 12:49 PM
Return to Forever's "Beyond the Seventh Galaxy" just played, only it said "Beyond the Seventh Galazy." I'm pretty sure there's NOTHING lazy about Return to Forever.

Steady Stan
08-30-2004, 01:03 PM
Steve Morse's solo stuff is under both "Steve Morse" and "Steve Morse Band".

Also, r.l, Reinassance may have slipped past the radar... it hasn't been changed.

SS

Avian
08-30-2004, 01:09 PM
Re: Steve Morse - it was probably released like that. I'd have to check on all of them

Rick and Roll
08-30-2004, 01:14 PM
there's no Southern rock here. the we'd have the "Danny Joe Brown and the Danny Joe Brown Band" discussion. (true band, a former Molly Hatchet lead singer)

or,

50's rock "Buddy Holly and His Crickets". Not the, yours, mine, or even Stan's...but HIS crickets.

Steady Stan
08-30-2004, 01:20 PM
(and after just checking his website, www.stevemorse.com), I can confirm that they were all released as "Steve Morse Band."

Steady Stan
08-30-2004, 01:26 PM
and rq'ing Steve Morse, then Steve Morse Band, then Dixie Dregs, then the Dregs.

Whew, thought you were gonna slam the Dixie Dregs for a moment, Rick.

Marshall Tucker's (or is that the Marshall Tucker Band?) "Take the Highway" is a good piece of Southern rock/jam/fusion that would fit on the playlist.

progdirjim
08-30-2004, 01:26 PM
Originally posted by moses
Return to Forever's "Beyond the Seventh Galaxy" just played, only it said "Beyond the Seventh Galazy." I'm pretty sure there's NOTHING lazy about Return to Forever.

I've fixed this one.

progdirjim
08-30-2004, 01:28 PM
Originally posted by Steady Stan
Steve Morse's solo stuff is under both "Steve Morse" and "Steve Morse Band".

Also, r.l, Reinassance may have slipped past the radar... it hasn't been changed.

SS

I've taken care of the Renaissance, will get to Steve Morse eventually - at least he's not overrequested yet...

Rick and Roll
08-30-2004, 01:29 PM
Originally posted by Steady Stan
Whew, thought you were gonna slam the Dixie Dregs for a moment, Rick.

You know Morse is favorite guitarist!:eek:

moses
08-30-2004, 02:07 PM
OK I had to check this one out to be sure, but the band is Yezda Urfa but is on the playlist as Yezda Ufa.

But it makes just as much sense with or without the R.

progdirjim
08-30-2004, 04:09 PM
Everything mentioned in this thread should be fixed, with the exception of the Supersister tracks 'cause I want to check my CD and I don't have it with me.

The two missing tracks were too crappy to play - you're not missing any gems...

progdirjim
08-30-2004, 04:13 PM
Originally posted by Steady Stan
(and after just checking his website, www.stevemorse.com), I can confirm that they were all released as "Steve Morse Band."

well, I have to disagree. High Tension Wires and at least one other were released as solo projects, and the artist is "Steve Morse", not "The Steve Morse Band"

Steady Stan
08-30-2004, 05:38 PM
You're right, High Tension Wires is basically the Dregs, and his 2 Major Impacts cd's, while the same band members as the Steve Morse Band, were released as Steve Morse.

Great, now I can request him twice as much! :D

Roger -Dot- Lee
08-30-2004, 05:40 PM
Originally posted by Steady Stan
You're right, High Tension Wires is basically the Dregs, and his 2 Major Impacts cd's, while the same band members as the Steve Morse Band, were released as Steve Morse.

Great, now I can request him twice as much! :D

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Roger -Dot- Lee, reaching for The Bash as we speak

Yesspaz
08-30-2004, 09:17 PM
Originally posted by progdirjim
Everything mentioned in this thread should be fixed, with the exception of the Supersister tracks 'cause I want to check my CD and I don't have it with me.

The two missing tracks were too crappy to play - you're not missing any gems... Right-o. Just wanted to point it out if it was.

progdirjim
08-31-2004, 12:44 PM
Originally posted by Steady Stan
You're right, High Tension Wires is basically the Dregs, and his 2 Major Impacts cd's, while the same band members as the Steve Morse Band, were released as Steve Morse.

Great, now I can request him twice as much! :D

although, you were right in your suggestion to make the band names the same - they are all listed under Steve Morse now...screw the band!;) :D

Yesspaz
08-31-2004, 04:26 PM
Ok, I'm going for the most anal award on this one. The song "Dont Hate Me" by Porcupine Tree needs an apostrophe."

zvinki
08-31-2004, 04:42 PM
YOU GUYS ARE DRIVING ME CRAZY!!! This nitpicking is like a water torture. You make me long for a "Who's the Best Guitarist" Poll.

(;) )

roger
08-31-2004, 05:02 PM
Originally posted by zvinki
You make me long for a "Who's the Best Guitarist" Poll. (;) ) what about classical music on the Moon? :D

Yesspaz
08-31-2004, 05:12 PM
Originally posted by zvinki
YOU GUYS ARE DRIVING ME CRAZY!!! This nitpicking is like a water torture. Simple solution: stop reading this thread :D :D :p :eek:

roger
08-31-2004, 05:16 PM
Originally posted by Yesspaz
Simple solution: stop reading this thread :D :D :p :eek: but then we might miss something... :p

Roger -Dot- Lee
08-31-2004, 05:45 PM
Originally posted by Yesspaz
Ok, I'm going for the most anal award on this one. The song "Dont Hate Me" by Porcupine Tree needs an apostrophe."

I'll take this under advisement.

Roger -Dot- Lee

KeithieW
09-01-2004, 03:25 AM
Originally posted by Yesspaz
Ok, I'm going for the most anal award on this one. The song "Dont Hate Me" by Porcupine Tree needs an apostrophe."

I think that qualifies for a tube of Preparation H Spaz :D

Rick and Roll
09-01-2004, 12:30 PM
use it first for my "chappesses"

moses
09-07-2004, 12:26 PM
I noticed we have tracks by "Dimeola, Al" and just "Dimeola." If these were the same there would be no chance of getting them back to back.

Al's not over-requested (yet, anyhow) so it's not even a big deal, but I just thought I should point out that it's there. If you're really bored someday maybe you could fix it.

Roger -Dot- Lee
09-07-2004, 09:07 PM
Originally posted by moses
I noticed we have tracks by "Dimeola, Al" and just "Dimeola." If these were the same there would be no chance of getting them back to back.

Al's not over-requested (yet, anyhow) so it's not even a big deal, but I just thought I should point out that it's there. If you're really bored someday maybe you could fix it.

Something that easy doesn't require boredom.

Fixed.

Roger -Dot- Lee, three keystrokes and two mouse clicks and it's done.

Rick and Roll
09-07-2004, 09:57 PM
Originally posted by zvinki
YOU GUYS ARE DRIVING ME CRAZY!!! This nitpicking is like a water torture. You make me long for a "Who's the Best Guitarist" Poll.

(;) )

i missed this one....too funny!

And "super Poster" and Power Poster"- you two are NUTS!

BTW, I vote for Ace Frehley or Elliot Easton, kings of the 20-second guitar lead!:D

VAXman
09-19-2004, 11:04 AM
Not so much a typo or playlist error but I noticed that when Passport - Ostinato played just now that What's Playing Now? buggered out.
It was fine through Djam Karet - Feast of Ashes and it came back as soon as Eric Johnson - Pavillion played.


Perhaps you can look to see if there is anything about this song that would cause this. It happens from time to time with tracks here; maybe there is some common thread/issue.

Yesspaz
09-20-2004, 10:38 PM
Just heard a newly added Mogwai song play (yay!) and decided to peruse the adds - found two errors.

1. "Burn Girl Prom-queen" should be "Burn Girl Prom Queen"
2. "Small Children - The Background" should be "Small Children in the Background"



Hooray for Mogwai.

MrMagoo
09-24-2004, 11:38 AM
'Colors' by AMB from the Legacy CD. That song isn't on that or any other AMB CD. No idea what it is, but it ain't the AMB I know & love :)

Roger -Dot- Lee
09-25-2004, 01:21 AM
Originally posted by MrMagoo
'Colors' by AMB from the Legacy CD. That song isn't on that or any other AMB CD. No idea what it is, but it ain't the AMB I know & love :)

Yep. Yer right on that one, 'goo. I have NO idea what it is.

I've pulled it from the rotation pending investigation to see just WHAT it is.

(isn't THAT novel! :rolleyes: )

Roger -Dot- Lee, at least it's better than the other reasons...

Yesspaz
09-25-2004, 06:31 PM
Soft Machine: needs a capital J in "Moon in june"

Pink Floyd: should be "Get Your Filthy Hands Off My Desert" and not "Get Your Filthy Hands Off My [arid patch of sand or Dessert]"



Spaz, making the world a better place.

Roger -Dot- Lee
09-25-2004, 08:40 PM
Originally posted by Yesspaz
Soft Machine: needs a capital J in "Moon in june"


I'm not going to worry about capitalization. I'll get to it next time I'm doing adds or something. Misspellings are one thing, but capitalization doesn't warrant getting worked up over.


Pink Floyd: should be "Get Your Filthy Hands Off My Desert" and not "Get Your Filthy Hands Off My [arid patch of sand or Dessert]"


uh, every dictionary I've ever owned shows "desert" to be a barren patch of land, or to abandon one's post, whereas "dessert" is the tasty treat one has after supper.

Why Pink Floyd would rather have someone get their filthy hands off of their patch of barren wasteland instead of their baked alaska or perhaps dish of candied yams is beyond me.

It stays the way it is, unless you can provide me definitive proof to the contrary.


Spaz, making the world a better place.

I'm hip.

Roger -Dot- Lee

Yesspaz
09-25-2004, 09:42 PM
Whoa! Right you are! I never noticed that Floyd got that wrong, and consequently never stopped to realize I had it wrong too. Good catch old chap.I'm not going to worry about capitalization. I'll get to it next time I'm doing adds or something. Misspellings are one thing, but capitalization doesn't warrant getting worked up over. I think we've just established that I'm the more anal of the two of us. :D
Yeah, NONE of the typo things are nearly as important as adding new songs, blocking over-requesters, running the station, et al. It's just one of those things that if you are absolutely bored, you could tackle.

Spaz, a certified perfectionist.

Roger -Dot- Lee
09-25-2004, 09:49 PM
Originally posted by Yesspaz
Whoa! Right you are! I never noticed that Floyd got that wrong, and consequently never stopped to realize I had it wrong too. Good catch old chap.


Yay! My spelling tests in grammar school finally paid off!


I think we've just established that I'm the more anal of the two of us. :D


If there is anyone in this forum that has had any doubt about this fact, I'd like to take a few moments out of my busy day to issue this as proof positive that, yes, Yesspaz is actually more anal than I am.

And you're even giving Rick a run for his money.


Yeah, NONE of the typo things are nearly as important as adding new songs, blocking over-requesters, running the station, et al. It's just one of those things that if you are absolutely bored, you could tackle.

Spaz, a certified perfectionist.

I'll add that to my ever growing list of things to do when I'm absolutely bored. As my life has been going these past few months, I'll get to that sometime after Christmas.

2007.

Roger -Dot- Lee, working his fool head off and loving it.

roger
09-26-2004, 12:44 PM
Originally posted by Roger Lee
working his fool head off and loving it. welcome back, Dot!:D

Roger -Dot- Lee
09-26-2004, 01:14 PM
Ya know, Spaz, I got to thinking about this, and I see where we crossed wires here:

Originally posted by Yesspaz
Pink Floyd: should be "Get Your Filthy Hands Off My Desert" and not "Get Your Filthy Hands Off My [arid patch of sand or Dessert]"


Desert: to beat a hasty retreat
Dessert: to eat a tasty treat

I can see where the confusion set in.

Roger -Dot- Lee, why yes, just a few moments ago, why do you ask?

Rick and Roll
09-26-2004, 04:35 PM
Originally posted by Yesspaz

Spaz, a certified perfectionist.

would have proofread before posting:cool:

If they cant keep their filthy hands off, how can they have any pudding? (There's a real dessert).

Yesspaz
09-26-2004, 05:03 PM
A perfectionist checks what he thinks might be an error. I thought I was correct. I was not.

Rick and Roll
09-26-2004, 05:20 PM
of course, anyone who sees KX that late at night and writes such a long and detailed review gets a free pass ;)

VAXman
09-27-2004, 08:11 PM
I submitted the complete Mastermind catalog to the moon back in February. I was looking in the request library and there are only
10 tracks listed.

If the limited edition (#918 or 1000, signed) Live In Tokyo isn't going to be put up, I'd like it back. I like to collect autographed prog memorabilia.

progdirjim
09-27-2004, 08:18 PM
Originally posted by VAXman
I submitted the complete Mastermind catalog to the moon back in February. I was looking in the request library and there are only
10 tracks listed.

If the limited edition (#918 or 1000, signed) Live In Tokyo isn't going to be put up, I'd like it back. I like to collect autographed prog memorabilia.

10 tracks? something is wrong then. I added the entire catalog, or so I thought. Live in Tokyo will be added, I just have to track down the CD and re-rip. Don't worry, I have it...

I'll see if I can figure out what happened to the rest of it...

Roger -Dot- Lee
09-27-2004, 09:12 PM
Originally posted by progdirjim
10 tracks? something is wrong then. I added the entire catalog, or so I thought. Live in Tokyo will be added, I just have to track down the CD and re-rip. Don't worry, I have it...

I'll see if I can figure out what happened to the rest of it...

That is bizarre. I remember adding that particular load, and distinctly remember it being more than 10 tracks.

I'll keep an eye on things and see if I can spot if anything went wrong.

Roger -Dot- Lee

Rick and Roll
09-27-2004, 10:05 PM
limited to ten tracks?:D

Yesspaz
09-30-2004, 09:45 PM
Just saw all the new stuff added. Sweet deal. But I noticed a couple of nit-picky things:

The Rovo album "Pico" should be "Pico!"
The album Late Nite is listed as "Schon, neal" instead of "Schon, Neal"


and one not-so-nit-picky.

The album Invention is listed as "Keaggy, Phil" and "Invention (with King and Dente)" or similar. They have equal billing as
Keaggy, King, & Dente (http://www.allmusic.com/cg/amg.dll?p=amg&token=&sql=10:6a967u50o0jw), similar to Schon & Hammer; Crosby, Stills, and Nash; and Fipp & Eno.



Spaz, being anal.

Roger -Dot- Lee
09-30-2004, 09:56 PM
Originally posted by Yesspaz
Just saw all the new stuff added. Sweet deal. But I noticed a couple of nit-picky things:

The Rovo album "Pico" should be "Pico!"
The album Late Nite is listed as "Schon, neal" instead of "Schon, Neal"


Spotted the Schon one myself and have already fixed it.

The Pico one is going to be filed under 'punctuation' and I'll get to it later.


and one not-so-nit-picky.

The album Invention is listed as "Keaggy, Phil" and "Invention (with King and Dente)" or similar. They have equal billing as
Keaggy, King, & Dente (http://www.allmusic.com/cg/amg.dll?p=amg&token=&sql=10:6a967u50o0jw), similar to Schon & Hammer; Crosby, Stills, and Nash; and Fipp & Eno.


I noticed that myself but I won't fix it since I'm psychic and think that maybe it wouldn't be such a good idea. Or something. Ahem.

OOH! LOOK! ELVIS!


Spaz, being anal.

No, Spaz being Spaz.

Roger -Dot- Lee, anal or otherwise. :D

Rick and Roll
09-30-2004, 09:56 PM
Bush spellings :D

Yesspaz
09-30-2004, 11:52 PM
Originally posted by Roger Lee
No, Spaz being Spaz. OOoh! Ahh! Bleeding! Writhing! Prick me, do I not bleed! :D

podakayne
10-01-2004, 03:16 PM
Spaz?....:D :eek:

and one not-so-nit-picky.
The album Invention is listed as "Keaggy, Phil" and "Invention (with King and Dente)" or similar. They have equal billing as Keaggy, King, & Dente, similar to Schon & Hammer; Crosby, Stills, and Nash; and Fipp & Eno.

progdirjim
10-01-2004, 04:42 PM
Originally posted by Yesspaz
Just saw all the new stuff added. Sweet deal. But I noticed a couple of nit-picky things:

The Rovo album "Pico" should be "Pico!"
The album Late Nite is listed as "Schon, neal" instead of "Schon, Neal"


and one not-so-nit-picky.

The album Invention is listed as "Keaggy, Phil" and "Invention (with King and Dente)" or similar. They have equal billing as
Keaggy, King, & Dente (http://www.allmusic.com/cg/amg.dll?p=amg&token=&sql=10:6a967u50o0jw), similar to Schon & Hammer; Crosby, Stills, and Nash; and Fipp & Eno.



Spaz, being anal.


noooooooo! don't correct this. we already have Phil keaggy in the library, and if this one gets "corrected", we could have Keaggy and Keaggy,King, Dente play back to back. And there's not enough stylistic difference to justify that, if I had to change Steve Morse and Steve Morse Band. What I'm saying is, this isn't a mistake - I did it on purpose.

Roger -Dot- Lee
10-01-2004, 06:43 PM
Originally posted by progdirjim
What I'm saying is, this isn't a mistake - I did it on purpose.

And this, gentle readers, is precisely the reason I don't jump to correct a lot of the stuff; especially stuff involving band names. There may be a good reason it's done the way it's done.

So there.

Roger -Dot- Lee, NYAH! [phlt!!]

Yesspaz
10-01-2004, 07:15 PM
Originally posted by progdirjim
noooooooo! don't correct this. we already have Phil keaggy in the library, and if this one gets "corrected", we could have Keaggy and Keaggy,King, Dente play back to back. And there's not enough stylistic difference to justify that, if I had to change Steve Morse and Steve Morse Band. What I'm saying is, this isn't a mistake - I did it on purpose. Ooh, I have to strongly disagree here. I know you're the owner and boss, but it's just wrong in my opinion to slight the other two when it's equal billing. Heck, the album was Wes King's idea. Steve Morse and Steve Morse Band are both still basically Steve Morse solo. But this isn't Keaggy solo. This is an equal billing group. I ask this: if the music didn't change a note but they called themselves "Nashville Guitar Trio" would it still be added as Phil Keaggy? I bet not. Also, I'd like to point out that each member had the opportunity to do a solo track (King opted not to). That means one of the songs - multiple guitar tracks and bass - is ALL Scott Dente. Yet the song is listed as Phil Keaggy? If I were Scott Dente or Wes King, I'm not sure I'd want my equal billing album being tauted as a Phil Keaggy solo album with me as a session guy. I know the final verdict is out of my hands, but as the donator of the music, as the one who found out about this great album, and as a fan of Wes King's solo stuff and Scott Dente's band Out of the Grey, I simply want to say that I feel strongly about calling the group by their correct name: Keaggy, King, & Dente.



The difference in Keaggy, King, & Dente and Phil Keaggy is not the same difference as Grand Funk Railroad and Grand Funk.

Yesspaz, hoping to pursuade, hoping he sounds gracious, realizing he's pulling a R.L by typing this sentence.

progdirjim
10-01-2004, 08:19 PM
Originally posted by Yesspaz
Ooh, I have to strongly disagree here. I know you're the owner and boss, but it's just wrong in my opinion to slight the other two when it's equal billing. Heck, the album was Wes King's idea. Steve Morse and Steve Morse Band are both still basically Steve Morse solo. But this isn't Keaggy solo. This is an equal billing group. I ask this: if the music didn't change a note but they called themselves "Nashville Guitar Trio" would it still be added as Phil Keaggy? I bet not. Also, I'd like to point out that each member had the opportunity to do a solo track (King opted not to). That means one of the songs - multiple guitar tracks and bass - is ALL Scott Dente. Yet the song is listed as Phil Keaggy? If I were Scott Dente or Wes King, I'm not sure I'd want my equal billing album being tauted as a Phil Keaggy solo album with me as a session guy. I know the final verdict is out of my hands, but as the donator of the music, as the one who found out about this great album, and as a fan of Wes King's solo stuff and Scott Dente's band Out of the Grey, I simply want to say that I feel strongly about calling the group by their correct name: Keaggy, King, & Dente.



The difference in Keaggy, King, & Dente and Phil Keaggy is not the same difference as Grand Funk Railroad and Grand Funk.


You make some persuasive arguments Spaz, however, my gut feeling is this. My example was Steve Morse; and according to Steve, "High Tension Wires" was his first solo album - the rest were group efforts. That being said, I HEAR a lot more diversity within the universe of Steve Morse/Steve Morse Band than I do in Phil Keaggy/Keaggy, King & Dente. I'm not trying to slight anyone; that's why I added (w/King and Dente) to the album title; and since Keaggy/KKD only have two albums on the moon, I'd MUCH rather hear Steve Morse and SMB back to back than Keaggy and KKD back to back. And I did not make any changes to Glass Harp, which as you know is Keaggy's band.

Yesspaz, hoping to pursuade, hoping he sounds gracious, realizing he's pulling a R.L by typing this sentence.

Now THAT's funny!

Roger -Dot- Lee
10-01-2004, 08:35 PM
[very strong argument deleted]

Originally posted by Yesspaz
Yesspaz, hoping to pursuade, hoping he sounds gracious, realizing he's pulling a R.L by typing this sentence.

I don't know whether to be flattered or insulted.

Roger -Dot- Lee, leaning heavily toward flattered, largely because it's got a better chance of tweaking 'spaz that way...

Yesspaz
10-02-2004, 01:59 AM
Originally posted by progdirjim
You make some persuasive arguments Spaz, however, my gut feeling is this. My example was Steve Morse; and according to Steve, "High Tension Wires" was his first solo album - the rest were group efforts. That being said, I HEAR a lot more diversity within the universe of Steve Morse/Steve Morse Band than I do in Phil Keaggy/Keaggy, King & Dente. I'm not trying to slight anyone; that's why I added (w/King and Dente) to the album title; and since Keaggy/KKD only have two albums on the moon, I'd MUCH rather hear Steve Morse and SMB back to back than Keaggy and KKD back to back. And I did not make any changes to Glass Harp, which as you know is Keaggy's band. Ok, I'll live with it, but I don't like it :confused:. I respect your opinion on that matter, but I honestly can't reconcile the "I'm not trying to slight anyone" statement with seeing in the now playing window Phil Keaggy's name and the cover of the album saying Keaggy, King, & Dente.

And I don't think KKD and 220 sound that similar. To me it is comparable to playing King Crimson and Anekdoten back to back, or two Krautbands, or two Canterbury - similar, but not the same (except for the common denominator of PK himself).



Spaz, happy KKD is on the Moon:D, but not happy it's credited to Phil Keaggy :mad:



Spaz is saying the Serenity Prayer repeatedly

Yesspaz
10-02-2004, 05:13 PM
Just noticed this one. Adiemus' "Song of Sanctuary" should be "Songs of Sanctuary."

progdirjim
10-02-2004, 11:59 PM
Originally posted by Yesspaz
Ok, I'll live with it, but I don't like it :confused:. I respect your opinion on that matter, but I honestly can't reconcile the "I'm not trying to slight anyone" statement with seeing in the now playing window Phil Keaggy's name and the cover of the album saying Keaggy, King, & Dente.

And I don't think KKD and 220 sound that similar. To me it is comparable to playing King Crimson and Anekdoten back to back, or two Krautbands, or two Canterbury - similar, but not the same (except for the common denominator of PK himself).



Spaz, happy KKD is on the Moon:D, but not happy it's credited to Phil Keaggy :mad:



Spaz is saying the Serenity Prayer repeatedly

I've been thinking. (No smart ass comments, please.) Since we seem to have fixed the overrequesting problem, I may change Steve Morse/SMB back to the appropriate artist name, and do the same for KKD. I reserve the right to change my mind if needed, but seeing as overrequesting of these bands hasn't been an issue, I don't expect it to be...

Yesspaz
10-03-2004, 01:02 AM
Originally posted by progdirjim
I've been thinking. (No smart ass comments, please.) Since we seem to have fixed the overrequesting problem, I may change Steve Morse/SMB back to the appropriate artist name, and do the same for KKD. I reserve the right to change my mind if needed, but seeing as overrequesting of these bands hasn't been an issue, I don't expect it to be... That'd be cool :cool: :D .

Rick and Roll
10-03-2004, 11:55 AM
Originally posted by Yesspaz
to playing King Crimson and Anekdoten back to back[/I]

first two Anekdoten like Crimson, not the next two. :)

Yesspaz
10-04-2004, 11:50 PM
As per Godspeed's Hompage (http://www.brainwashed.com/godspeed/news.html) and AMG's entry (http://www.allmusic.com/cg/amg.dll?p=amg&sql=10:09fixqwaldfe), the song "9-15-00" needs an extra zero - "09-15-00"


I've noticed a lot of these little things lately... :rolleyes:

Yesspaz
10-04-2004, 11:50 PM
As per Godspeed's Hompage (http://www.brainwashed.com/godspeed/news.html) and AMG's entry (http://www.allmusic.com/cg/amg.dll?p=amg&sql=10:09fixqwaldfe), the song "9-15-00" needs an extra zero - "09-15-00"


I've noticed a lot of these little things lately... :rolleyes:

Yesspaz
10-04-2004, 11:50 PM
As per Godspeed's Hompage (http://www.brainwashed.com/godspeed/news.html) and AMG's entry (http://www.allmusic.com/cg/amg.dll?p=amg&sql=10:09fixqwaldfe), the song "9-15-00" needs an extra zero - "09-15-00"


I've noticed a lot of these little things lately... :rolleyes:

Yesspaz
10-04-2004, 11:51 PM
How did I wind up posting that thrice?:eek:

KeithieW
10-05-2004, 03:08 AM
Originally posted by Yesspaz
How did I wind up posting that thrice?:eek:
Maybe so we'd notice a lot of them lately too. :D

Roger -Dot- Lee
10-05-2004, 08:22 AM
Originally posted by Yesspaz
As per Godspeed's Hompage (http://www.brainwashed.com/godspeed/news.html) and AMG's entry (http://www.allmusic.com/cg/amg.dll?p=amg&sql=10:09fixqwaldfe), the song "9-15-00" needs an extra zero - "09-15-00"


I've noticed a lot of these little things lately... :rolleyes:

Was there a reason you posted this three times or was that a system belch?

Roger -Dot- Lee, -Dot- Lee, -Dot- Lee

Rick and Roll
10-05-2004, 08:46 AM
Originally posted by Yesspaz
As per Godspeed's Hompage (http://www.brainwashed.com/godspeed/news.html) and AMG's entry (http://www.allmusic.com/cg/amg.dll?p=amg&sql=10:09fixqwaldfe), the song "9-15-00" needs an extra zero - "09-15-00"


I've noticed a lot of these little things lately... :rolleyes:

Damn! That's why I didn't find it!

:rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

Yesspaz
10-05-2004, 12:27 PM
Originally posted by Roger Lee
Was there a reason you posted this three times or was that a system belch? System belch. I hit "submit reply" but nothing happened, so I hit it again. I dunno...

Yesspaz
10-20-2004, 12:17 AM
Two more:

1. The Moody Blues' album "To Our Children's Children" is listed as "To Our Children's Children's" - at least the song "Watching and Waiting" anyway.

2. The band Xang has a song listed as by XANG, so SAM will see XANG and Xang as different artists.

Roger -Dot- Lee
10-20-2004, 12:33 AM
Originally posted by VAXman
Not so much a typo or playlist error but I noticed that when Passport - Ostinato played just now that What's Playing Now? buggered out.
It was fine through Djam Karet - Feast of Ashes and it came back as soon as Eric Johnson - Pavillion played.


Perhaps you can look to see if there is anything about this song that would cause this. It happens from time to time with tracks here; maybe there is some common thread/issue.

I have no idea how I missed this one the first time around. I've popped it on the queue and will see if it shows itself.

Sorry for the delay, Vax. I blame Cingular, the fuckers.

Roger -Dot- Lee, Bitter? Me?

Roger -Dot- Lee
10-20-2004, 12:36 AM
Originally posted by Yesspaz
System belch. I hit "submit reply" but nothing happened, so I hit it again. I dunno...

OK, fair enough. I'll write it off as a system belch. Might have happened during the just-post-shout where we were having some odd and random unexplained and undefined instances.

Oh, and for the record (this is for everyone, not just 'spaz): if you see some sort of system wonkage, something that just isn't right, or doesn't work properly, let me know ASAP, specifically with (as Vax did) the time it happened, what played that caused it to bhelch, and what cleared it up.

Thanks.

Roger -Dot- Lee, getting caught up here.

Roger -Dot- Lee
10-20-2004, 12:43 AM
Originally posted by Yesspaz
Two more:

1. The Moody Blues' album "To Our Children's Children" is listed as "To Our Children's Children's" - at least the song "Watching and Waiting" anyway.


The album title is actually "To Our Children's Children's Children" and seems to be running into the limitation of field length for these.


2. The band Xang has a song listed as by XANG, so SAM will see XANG and Xang as different artists.

I was unable to locate any song by the artist name of XANG in the database. So either it was a glitch or someone else has already fixed it.

It may well have been me, as I've slept since then.

Roger -Dot- Lee, and speaking of which...
:o

Yesspaz
10-20-2004, 09:07 AM
Originally posted by Roger Lee

The album title is actually "To Our Children's Children's Children" and seems to be running into the limitation of field length for these.
[/B] OOOOOOOOOOOh! Well, now you know how much I know about the Moodies.

I'll look into that XANG/Xang thing.