What are your Progressive Rock Roots?

[Argon]

Progressive Rock is almost as hard to pin down as Jazz. We all have our leaning on what it is (or should be). This discussion is not meant to debate what Progressive Rock is but to say what it is and means to you. For me it's Rock/ Classical with interesting changes and vocal/lyrics.
I was lucky enough to have grown up in the early 70's (the height of Progressive Rock) and always loved it and have been trying to find some new material to expand my horizons. I have been trying out some of the great groups that have been suggested here. Some I really liked and some sounded like reincarnations of old bands.

The other day I decided to dust off some old LP's and give them a spin. What a discovery I made! I played Selling England By the Pound and Fox Trot back to back. I know some of you are saying DUH! but it had been so long since I listened to them all the way through, (and I have been beaten over the head with Phil Collins/Genesis Singles for so long) I had forgotten how good the Old Genesis was. I cut my Progressive Rock teeth on Old Genesis, ELP, Camel, Gong, Yes etc.(do any of you remember the Great Yes debate (Who's better with Yes? Patrick Maraz (sp?) or Rick Wakeman) I have seen all these bands numerous times and can't believe I had left them on the shelf so long!

Dig deep pull out an old favorite and take a ride down nostalgia lane and let us know about it.

Thanks Aural Moon for reminding me to not think of Abacab when I think of Genesis.

[ivan_2068]

Dig deep pull out an old favorite and take a ride down nostalgia lane and let us know about it.

I really wanted to dig in my LP's, but my dear sister plugged my turntable directly, the problem is that we have 220v and I bought my turntable in Miami (110v), I think I'll have to fix it because it's a very good one (Dual with those little scales and nonsenses).

But yesterday I had a small bussines trip and had to drive for almost 6 hours, so placed 6 almost forgotten CD's in the car and had great moments with:

Jeff Wayne's War of the Worlds: Great mixture of Prog' epic with disco music, love this album, and heard it after some years. Richard Burton's narrative is amazing, and fit's exactly with the music.

Love Devotion Surrender (Santana & Mc Laughlin): Never liked this album, bought the CD because was realy cheap and for collection purpose, but I gave myself a new chance and found some great moments in this classic, not the best work of Santana and/or Mc Laughlin, but it's good enough to listen it more frecuently.

Look at Yourself (Uriah Heep): I always talk about this album as good example of prog' metal, but hadn't heard it for some years, and yesterday I found it still is a great one, the title song is really amazing specially because they used the OSIBISA percusionists, and "Tears in my Eyes" is a wonderful progressive song, with one of the vocal harmony break supported by smooth wah-wah guitar 've ever heard. And of course "July Morning" a masterpiece. Really a "must have".

Aurora (Jean Luc Ponty): I simply love this album, don't know why I don't listen it more often.

Heads (OSIBISA): Don't know what style they play, lots of african rythms, vocal choirs, great rock and some semi prog' moments, except for their hit single Che Che Kule, the album is very good, with great songs as Woyaya, So So Mi La So and Sweet Sounds. As an ex drummer, can't do anything but admire the excelent rythm section.

Iván

[byzantium]

My story...

When I started listening to classic UK progressive rock a few years back, it was to me something new, not something old.

The only Yes song I can remember from my youth is 'Owner of a Lonely Heart'. I cannot remember I've heard anything of the 70s-Genesis or King Crimson. I was too young to experience prog-rock in the 70s (I was born in 1969), and it wasn't played anywhere by anyone in the early 80s when I got more 'conscious' about the music scene. Genesis, for example, was just a band name, the band Peter Gabriel left way back.

My only reference back to the symphonic rock (or what I believed was symphonic rock) was Mike Oldfield; his Crises LP climbed the charts in 1983 and that one made me explore his back catalogue. I still had no notion of any prog-scene or the like. 'Progressive rock' was called 'Symfonirock' in Sweden in order not to confuse ’prog’ with the politically progressive music movement, which most of the time wasn't musically progressive at all. (And you still can't use 'prog' without having people's associations go the wrong way, and 'symfonirock' is invariably loaded with negative content :( )

Miles Davis was my introduction into jazz, and while exploring jazz I discovered the classic UK progressive rock. I really don't fancy the 90s neo-prog - it's too much 80s slick arena rock to me. I like it more edgy and experimental, like King Crimson, jazz-fusion, or the classic, mellow symphonic way, like Camel, P.F.M or Renaissance.

[ÄlveKatt]

I started as a metalhead. As metal often was more diverse than pop. But after a while i thought that it still wasn't diverse enough, i needed more stimulation from my music. That was when i got introduced to the progressive genre. I am not sure i can remember specfic bands though. I think i asked someone on the net for diverse music that you didn't tire so damn fast of, and he said Ayreon.

And then i just wanted more and more.

Is it just me, or did most young people who found the proggessive scene for the first time in the latest years start out as metalheads? I mean those who didn't live before the eighties.

It's interesting really, on the other forums i have visited the general age seem to be around 20. Here it seems closer to 40.

[solorossi]

My mom was a classically-trained musician (organist, singer) so I grew up around a lot of classical music (mainly Baroque composers).

When my own personal taste in music started developing (during the 70's) I listened to mainly AOR like Boston, Rush, Zep, etc.

My dad was a high school history teacher, so he picked up a copy of Rick Wakeman's Six Wives of Henry VIII (since it may have had to do with history). He quickly discovered that it was NOT about history. It was prog! He said, "Here, do you want this? I don't."

I listened to it and liked it. Very soon I started listening to early Yes, Genesis, Tull, Queen, etc. and was hooked on that prog sound. The mixture of classical elements and rock appealed to me.

I still like prog, both old and new stuff and I even sing in a classical choral group. They've both stuck with me.

Rossi

[djsmed]

Started with my Uncle turning me on to Pink Floyd at age 10. From there my fater bought me ELP - Live (the one recorded in Canada with the orchestra).

The 1st LP I bought with my own money was YES - Fragile. This was back in 1978/79. I then proceeded to buy everything from Yes, Rush, Floyd, Elp, Genesis, UK, King Crimson, RTF etc..

I was taking piano lessons at the time and Rick Wakeman and Keith Emerson were my biggest inspirations. Later I went to college for Jazz piano and music education. So this stuff really left it's mark on me.

I can remember my mother asking me what I wanted for Christmas when I was very young. I got a SEARS stero with record player and 8 track. I got Kansas- Masque on 8 TRACK !!! Hey, I was very young at the time and 8 TRACK was IN.

So now, my vinyl collection (more than 2000) takes up a large part of one room in my house and my CD's (many of the same) number more than 1500. No more 8 tracks I'm happy to say.

Just recently (past 3 years) I have re-discovered Marillion (all of it is great stuff), discovered Flower Kings, Transatlantic, Spock's Beard, Dream Theater and a bunch of others thanks to this forum and Aural Moon!

-djsmed-:D

[ivan_2068]

Talking about my roots, until I was 12 (1976), used to listen Classical Music (specially Modern Russian), radio crap (top 40) and some classic rock stuff like Deep Purple, BTO, Led Zeppelin.

In that year a new family moved to my block, they had a kid about my age who listened the same stuff as me and a very beutiful 17 years daughter who listened some strange music. Once I tried to impress her with Uriah Heep, and she gave me a cassette with Yessongs. Of course told her I liked the music (But really liked her :D ), so I started to listen some of her music, as King Crimson, Focus, etc just to be near her, she even sold me in 2 bucks a brand new LP "The Six Wives of Henry the VIII" because her mother bought two copies and nobody wanted to buy that album.

In the same year I went to a concert by a cover band that played Genesis (I think I told the story on other thread), and then it was too late, I felt in love with prog'. So my Prog' roots are Uriah Heep, Yes, Wakeman and Genesis.

By the way, I never had a chance with the girl (she was too old :D ) but she gave me a gift for the rest of my life, progressive music.

Iván

[Josephus]

My first foray into music was at around 11-12 I loved the Bee Gees and the Grease soundtrack.:(

But then, Xmas 1979, I heard Pink Floyd's Another Brick In The Wall Pt 2. and like most schoolkids I thought the song was just great. I got my Dad to get me thr album for Christmas. And I liked it, I really liked it. Not just ABITW, but the whole thing. Thought it was awesome.

I had an older brother whose formative years were spent in the mid to late 70s; and he told me, "If you think you like Pink Floyd, listen to this..." and he lent me his beaten up copy of Meddle.

Echoes floored me. I was converted.

In high school , I met a group of similar-minded fellows who introduced me to Genesis, King Crimson and Yes. I became a prog rocker. Disillusioned with music in the late 80s, early 90s--I switched to Goth for a short time; before the discovery of the Internet; which in addition to free porn, introduced me to a whole new world of progressive rock and roll. I still live for the old stuff, but I'm into FlowerKings, Echolyn, Porcupine Tree etc.

And that's my story:)

[spedblavio]

The early years (7-11ish): parents didn't have a lot of recorded music at home, but were both involved in music in their younger years. A couple albums I recall liking from this period:

Simon & Garfunkel Bridge over Troubled Water (I still like them; have Bookends on CD, don't listen to it much though)

Don Ellis Orchestra Live at Monterey - my mom was into jazz, I even saw Don Ellis and his band at a jazz club in the late 60's I think. This was a key exposure for me, and I'll bet a lot of folks around here might like this. It's the "progressive rock" of big band jazz. Don't let "big band" scare you, this is complex intellectual jazz that rocks and swings and does it in complex meters like the "classic" 19 beats per measure (the piece is called "332221222" for the way the beats are counted). Highly recommended (if you're not completely averse to jazz) and available on CD.

The first album I owned personally, and the next significant "landmark" was the soundtrack from 2001: A Space Odyssey. I was a huge fan as a young lad (10 or 11?) when it came out. Still am.

A cousin's copy of Tarkus was the next significant exposure as an early teen visiting relatives. A real fluke as he wasn't any sort of prog rock fan; don't know what he was doing with it. This was probably about the time it came out.

As I began to acquire recordings and a taste of my own, I had some early stuff: Carly Simon, Leon Russell, Elton John... I wasn't there yet.... later I joined a record club and got a little more hip: Uriah Heep, Moody Blues, then Yes, re-discovered ELP, Zeppelin, Tull, Pink Floyd...

But it wasn't until a met a friend, I was still in high school, he was just out, who had the good stuff, a huge collection of LPs and original San Francisco psychedelic posters covering his wall. Turned me on to Genesis, Gentle Giant, Henry Cow, Hatfield, Gong, Oldfield, ECM label jazz, Zappa, etc, etc, etc and on and on from there I go still.

The 80's were a bitch though. And frankly I'm still not terribly impressed with a lot of the current new "progressive rock". But here and there I'm finding some things around the edges that are interesting (Krakatoa's We Are the Rowboats is one example).

After all these years my tastes have broadened beyond strictly prog rock quite a bit, more traditional jazz as well as hybrid stuff like Bill Frisell, Latin jazz and various South American styles and other "world" music and mixtures like Michael Brooks' stuff with Nusrat Fatah Ali Khan, Philip Glass, Steve Reich and other more obscure and not necessarily minimialist stuff, and various other good stuff. Still don't own any pop music to speak of, or folk/bluegrass music (though I'm getting closer to that via Frisell, and early Cockburn is very acoustic, sort of "progressive" folk, sophisticated, complex and jazzy), I enjoy classical but don't collect it. No punk, new wave, disco. No rap, goth or industrial.

Bruce Cockburn has been a favorite of mine (for his music and passionate expression; my spirituality and politics are not as specific as his), and I think a lot of his material has plenty to offer open minded prog rock fans.

I like some of Kit Watkins' stuff.

I've had a big resurgence in my appreciation and listening time for Yes lately, spurred by my discovery of Magnification and then acquisition of the Rhino remasters (I only had really bad probably 1st generation CDs before that), after pretty much losing touch with them throughout the 80's and 90's.

I'm kind of interested in some of King Crimson's real recent stuff, but haven't been attracted to the whole Thrak period. Loved most of their 80's stuff, truly the band that carried the flame and stayed both true to themselves and evolved during the 80's.

Anyway, classic prog still gets listened to a lot around here, and I'm discovering old stuff I'd forgotten or never knew. Canarios' Ciclos is a great discovery. I want to check out Moving Gelatine Plates and Cartoon. And I still need to get Soft Machine Third.

And so on.

[Rick and Roll]

I grew up with Elton John, Styx, Kansas, S. Miller, even stuff like Ohio Players and other funk - and even some punk (I was dating a girl who really dug that stuff). My high school favs were Sabbath, Zeppelin, Queen, Who, Genesis, and especially Tull and Rush.

When I got to college (early 80's), a whole new world opened up. My "conversion" bands were Crimson and Gentle Giant. From there it really just took off, many influences too numerous to mention. I am still especially partial to hard stuff (bands like Iron Maiden) and fusion.

I think Discipline is the album that really blew me away. It was so different.

[black max]

I grew up listening to country music and bluegrass. I discovered AM rock (Brandehh, you're a fine girl...) and heavy metal, and that helped, but in 11th grade a friend turned me on to "Close to the Edge," and it was all over. Shortly afterwards, another friend turned me on to Crimson and ELP. More fun!

When Discipline came out, I was working at an anti-commercial college radio station, and our program director gave it a quick listen and decided not to put it into rotation. Grrrrr. It actually worked out well, because since we didn't have to wait for it to come up in rotation, we could play it...ANY TIME WE LIKED.

It wasn't long before our station manager sent around a note asking us to play something else besides "Talking Crimson" sets. (The material on the Talking Heads' Remain in Light segues wonderfully with material from Discipline.)

Hey, why not put Remain in Light in the library?

[Rick and Roll]

Great idea about Remain In Light, and also Fear of Music or even Speaking In Tongues. Could be iffy on the prog label though. A definite call by the powers that be.

[byzantium]

Talking Head's Remain in Light is a masterpiece. Speaking in Tongues doesn't even come close with its leanings toward mainstream pop.

Brian Eno must be the most important producer in rock history.

[black max]

Byz, you and I agree on Speaking in Tongues. Too poppy by far. Remain in Light, however, has some quite complex (for the Heads) song structures, not to mention Adrian Belew's guitar work. If I were making the call, I'd put all of RIL, most of FOM, and none of SIT in the library. Maybe that's just personal preference speaking, though.

[Howard Roark]

I guess my Prog roots started out with the first Boston album, not really prog, but it was different than anything else going on. I saw my first offical concert (that means mom didnt have to take me, she did take me to see ELP!) With Boston ,Rush and Starcastle. Wow! what a line-up.I went out and bought all the current albums by those groups at the time. A Farewell to Kings and Fountains of Light.

I always enjoyed the Italian band PFM, but never had the chance to see them live. I became a huge Rush and Max Webster head and then gravitated into bands like King Crimson, UK,Uriah Heep, Kansas early Judas Priest and Iron Maiden etc...

I wish kids could somehow be exposed to some of this great music instead of the same old boring stuff that I hear being passed off as the next big thing.

HR

[zvinki]

This is the second time that you have mentioned Max Webster, Howard. What an underrated band!!! I also grew up listening to Rush and Max Webster followed by Yes and Marillion. Now thanks to AM I listen and enjoy everything prog, from Renaissance to Godspeed You Black Emperor.

Going back to Max Webster, I don't think that all their stuff is fit for prog but some of the earlier, like In Context of the Moon, would definately fit the quirky type like what Frank Zappa offers.

Cheers!

[Rick and Roll]

oh that's Kim Mitchell solo.....

I consider Max Webster to your area as Crack The Sky is to us Marylanders.

I never did hear much of their stuff, save for the tune with Rush. Do you have suggestions about what to get, and how to get it?

[zvinki]

Although Kim Mitchell was the front man for Max Webster, please don't judge Max by his solo efforts which, unfortunately, received more airplay.

The first 3 albums are probably the most interesting: Max Webster (self-titled debut), High Class in Borrowed Shoes, and Mutiny Up My Sleeve. As individual tracks you can check out Oh War!, In Context of the Moon, Beyond the Moon, The Party, Toronto Tontos, and Coming Off the Moon. Howard can give his own opinions. I don't know where you can get them but maybe Kazaa or something similar may have something. Good luck!

[Rick and Roll]

Amazon may have some - I'll try at some point.

Thanks!

[Howard Roark]

Hello,

Yes, the Kim Mitchell solo stuff is also very good.

It's hard to say which Max Webster Album is more suited for prog.I have always felt that they were all over the place style wise, very hard to place them in any one catagory. I have a bootleg video of the band in Barrie, Canada on the Universal Juveniles tour that just blows me away!

Universal Juveniles is actually the first album I bought after seeing them with Rush,featuring the famous duet,"Battlescar" I then went back and collected their entire catalog. They were just one of those bands that struck me as musically entertaining and humorus at the same time.I know that Kim kind of put the blame of "Being in the shadow of Rush all the time" as a reason for the bands demise, but that's a typical label/management decision.

Their is a compilation disc out there called "The best of Max Webster featuring Kim Mitchell" which is pretty decent, it tends to contain the more Radio friendly tunes, not that any of their songs were crafted for that purpose, but it might be as close to a greatest hits that Max ever had.Most of this stuff can be found on Ebay or Amazon.com

..Did I mention that Starcastle will have a new CD this year!

Thanks,

HR

[KeithieW]

My Prog rock roots lie in my father playing music to me from a VERY early age. We used to have sunday lunch then retire to the living room and he would play albums for a couple of hours in between cat naps. He introduced me to Classical music, Jazz, Easy listening everything except Rock and roll. He hated "pop" with a vengence and as I grew into the rebellious little git that I was to become I started listening to more and more, what I thought, outrageous stuff. It got to the stage where when I got my first record player (a fidelity unit that blasted out all of 10 watts) and would play The Doors or Yes or Genesis while sitting on top of my wardrobe, a voice would bellow "TURN THAT BLOODY DOPE SMOKING MUSIC DOWN.....NOW!!!!!"

Obviously the classical music that I loved (and still love) moved me towards the more melodic music that Prog offered. I liked experimentation (in all things) and again the concept albums that were in abundance in the 70s were a perfect vehicle for my ever expanding taste.

Now that I'm 47 going on 16 none of that enthusiasm has died and I still look out for new bands and albums.......thank you AM.

However, even though the new bands I've discovered through AM are good they will never recapture those moments of the 70s of watching Yes, Focus, Genesis, Tull, Camel..........etc. perform their magnum opuses (opi??) for the first time.

What beautiful moments in my life they were.

[Rick and Roll]

just kidding.

I don't think I could handle being a teenager in the early 70's (I just missed).

[KeithieW]

Originally posted by Rick and Roll
just kidding.

I don't think I could handle being a teenager in the early 70's (I just missed).

Don't laugh man....I did go and see Lonnie Donegan when he was in his skiffling prime. I loved his song "The Battle of New Orleans" and I still have it on my JukeBox here at home.

[Rick and Roll]

very cool to hear a local perspective on British music -

is this a Jukebox in the traditional sense? tell me more!

[KeithieW]

Originally posted by Rick and Roll
is this a Jukebox in the traditional sense? tell me more!

It's a NSM Satellite 200. One of the first "electronic" Jukes to be made.

I takes 100 7" singles and has a primitive sound/light display.

I bought it because I have a collection of over 600 singles and as my deck isn't one of the old multi-play "record bashers" it seemed like the best option. I change the records every month or so.

I really wanted a Wurlitzer but the cost was prohibitive. Even so, I still love the machine I've got and would never part with it.

Just playing 252 "The Zombies" - 'She's not there'.

Well no-one told me about her, the way she lied.

[Rick and Roll]

Neat!

Mr. Rod Argent, huh?

Hold your head high!

[KeithieW]

Originally posted by Rick and Roll
Neat!

Mr. Rod Argent, huh?

Hold your head high!

That's a good point Rick........

Hey Jim, how about some Argent for the Playlist?

I know there's a bit of Solo rod Argent but the bands Live album "Encore" is worth a play or two.

[progdirjim]

Argent - as always, we'll consider it. Haven't listened to the classic era Argent in a LONG time....

[Rick and Roll]

So good to hear, even though you make me feel old.

[Methem]

(Another old, obviously interesting thread.)

[Methem]

My general musical story is pretty much as follows...

The first musical experiences I can remember are probably from the early 1980s or from the mid-1980s. I was a child then, under 10 years old. My father used to have an old Beatles LP, perhaps some collection. I remember liking it. He also listened early Santana (especially Abraxas), and I liked that too. Later, still as a rather small kid, I remember liking Weather Report as well: "Birdland", probably "Teentown", etc.

In the 1980s, I often spent time listening to audio cassettes that my father had recorded from various Finnish radio shows. He sometimes just recorded shows without obviously paying much attention to whether the content was worth recording. :) So I got to listen to a mix of pop, rock, disco, and all sort of other stuff. I remember liking some of that pop stuff, some of the disco, but also some of the more sophisticated music that had somehow managed to slip in to those recordings. I now know that I have liked, for example, Styx's "Come Sail Away" and Klaatu's "Calling Occupants..." for many years, but it wasn't until I discovered the Moon that I got to know who the artists actually performing those songs are.

In the early 1990s, as a teenager, I discovered eletronic dance music. I used to listen to it from radio. Eurodance (eek), some breakbeatish stuff like Prodigy, house music, a little bit of rap, and so on. A lot of that music was/is pretty cheap and cheesy, but something in it fascinated me anyway. At the same time, many of my schoolmates were usually into Metallica and other thrash metal bands.

In the mid-1990s, while still somewhat into that dancey stuff and obviously rap, I got again a bit more interested in the old rock. Saw Tull's Living In The Past somewhere and bought it. The music felt a bit odd, but I certainly liked it, back then (these days I don't seem to be so excited about the band). Other artists I can remember bying (even if it was just one CD per group) include Procol Harum, Fleetwood Mac, Jimi, Kinks (is that really rock? obviously), and so on. Also bought some Woodstock collection. :) A few years later, I bought something by Airplane and Steppenwolf, and so on.

In the late 1996 (pretty late, yep), I started listening to Black Sabbath. They, the original 1970s band, are probably the band I've listened the most ever in my life. Sabbath paved the way to my modest trip to more metallic side of music: Bought some Anathema, Paradise Lost, My Dying Bride; all originally classified as "doom metal" bands, methinks. Bought a couple of Metallicas, something by Manowar :), Blind Guardian, even one Norwegian album that I believe was some sort of black metal. And so on.

In 2000 I more or less drifted back to dance music. Soon discovered goatrance/psytrance, which is psychedelic eletronic dance "music", often with ethnic influence. Astral Projection is one of the most well-known groups making that sort of stuff. I also believe Eat Static is often classified as a psytrance group, among others...?

In the late 1990s or 2000, around those times, I also started to get a little bit more interested in world music and folkish stuff, I think. Transglobal Underground's Yes Boss Food Corner (funky name) was probably my first album in that area...

Then, a bit over couple of years ago I discovered the Moon. As someone who had an idea about what prog. rock is but who obviously hadn't seriously explored the, hmmm, phenomena before, I took this place as an opportunity to learn more about the music. And since then I've discovered many interesting bands completely new to me and bought several nice albums. However, to be honest, not everything I've heard here has fascinated me. I must admit that I'm one of those oddies who doesn't care too much about Genesis or King Crimson...


-Methem

[VERNIXX]

My Progressive Rock Roots?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!

Well, I was a child of the 70's....listening to Kiss and Alice Cooper. I loved popular music.

Then an older kid (a teenager) in my neighborhood turned me onto Kansas' Masque, King Crimson's Larks Tongues, and Soft Machine Third. I was instantly warped and twisted. I bought every album I could by Yes, Emerson Lake & Palmer, Camel, Wyatt, Genesis, Magma, Gong, Caravan.....it just became an obsession. And the obsession still grows.

I've been listening to this site for 3 years and only recently decieded to post in the forums and join! Hotcha indeeeeed.....

[Rick and Roll]

I've been listening to this site for 3 years and only recently decieded to post in the forums and join! Hotcha indeeeeed.....


Now that explains who the other listeners are.....nice to see you here..

[PeterG]

Dug deep and found this thread... so here is my 2 cents...

There are three things that stick out in my memory about my musical tastes...

1. (1972) I remember hanging out with my buddy Kevin, in his backyard. Probably blowing up GI Joes or attaching bottle rockets to a a variety of objects... listening to the radio. "Brandy, you're a fine girl... , Cat Stevens, Carpenters..." you know the drivel.. but we just loved Frankenstein by Edgar Winter... what a freaky song by a freaky artist... so unusual...

2. (1972) I remember hanging out with my buddy Kevin, and we went to the record store... We were each buying our 'first' album. He talked me into buying the first Black Sabbath album. I talked him into buying "Close to the Edge" We get back to his house and after a couple listens of both we mutually decide to trade... he wanted Black Sabbath and I was blown away by "Close to the Edge"

3. (1973) I remember hanging out with my buddy Kevin, he was 10 , I was 12. He had a sister that was 10 years older and she had an apartment. We used to ride our bikes over there and she would give us lemonade and cookies. She had a great album collection... lots of classic rock and 60's stuff... but we were focused on her new album by Mike Oldfield... listened to it every week "Tubular Bells" She got it after seeing "The Exorcist" Her husband (some call him Tim) was continually freaked out by the lyrics in part two. He'd get up and leave saying "Oh Jesus, it's the Devil"

I didn't realize for years that i was a progger .. I was listening to KISS in '76 when I stole some 8 track tapes from my sisters boyfriend... I remember getting ELPs first album and some Moodies... Got into King Crimson and my friends thought I was weird... bought the UK albums when they came out... couldn't get my buddies 'into' it... the same fore Wakeman albums... they couldn't care less... LOSERS!

[DEzerov]

I always find it interesting to read the interests and perspectives of other Moonies. It makes one feel closer, since actually meeting or spending time in person with others may be prohibitive for some.

Anyway…my Prog roots go back to my parents’ love of music. Both sang in church choirs, Mom was self-taught on the piano and Dad played a bit of mandolin.

We had one of those bound 12 LP sets of the classics… Stravinsky, Berlioz, Grieg, Tchaikovsky, Smetana, Sibelius, et al. when I was very young. There was also a collection of big-band and swing….8 to 10 disks, I think. All the stars…Lionel Hampton, Kay Kaiser, The Dorsey Brothers, Count Basie, Duke Ellington, Xavier Cugot, and many more.

Seeing the Beatles live on Ed Sullivan when they first appeared on Feb. 9, 1964 was an instrumental moment in my interest in rock as were appearances by the Rolling Stones, the Mamas and the Papas and the Doors.

Most instrumental was probably a Sunday night “underground” show called “Sunday Subway” that aired on my local AM rocker. This is where I first heard In-A-Gadda-Da-Vida, Steppenwolf’s Monster, Jefferson Airplane’s Volunteers, Tim Hardin’s Bird On A Wire, Uriah Heep’s Look At Yourself, White Bird and of course, In the Court of the Crimson King.

I suppose my passion for Prog is a result of these influences and countless others. And I reckon, as most of us do, that our passion for Prog is as much a part of our lives as our tastes in food and drinks are, what we like to read and who we choose to associate with.

[gr8sho92]

My Prog rock roots lie in my father playing music to me from a VERY early age. <snip>

I'll use KeithieWs response to start my post for 3 reasons, first because the quoted text applies directly to me, second, because we're both the same age, and third because I also had a puny 10W p-h-o-n-o-g-r-a-p-h. For those too young to remember, these archaic machines played large black plastic vinyl discs that spun around and reproduced music via a fine needle riding in grooves.

And so even though I grew up listening to mostly italian 60s pop because of my father, prog was the first music all mine that I adopted in a conspiracy with my friends of the day back in late 1974 when I lived in Ostia. Sure I had seen Dark Side of the Moon be number one on the hit parade for a few years, but that really didn't mean anything to me at all until our little clique decided PFM was cool and bought their records, Live in USA being my first and still have that album. So we would spend time playing these records, Floyd's Ummagumma, and Deep Purple's Live in Japan and Burn.

When I returned back to the states in 1975, I continued my like of both prog and hard rock. For the former (won't bother you with the latter), I got Chocolate Kings when that came out, added albums like Trick of the Tail (one of my absolute all time favorite albums), Wish You Were Here, Animals, Wind and Wuthering, ELP's Works vol 1, and several others.

As things evolved and my perception that prog had all but died in the 80s and 90s, I now find I am once again listening to prog now almost exclusively on iPod, and AM of course.

As for why bands like Yes and Jethro Tull aren't mentioned, all I can say is that while I like them, I'm thinking I was overdosed by them on stations in NY like PLJ and NEW that played their "hit" songs over and over to the point I had had enough. I have since repented...

I have to also say that it helps when your favorite band releases a new album and it's considered cool. In case you don't know, I absolutely love Stati Di Immaginazione.

Cheers,
Carl

[secrettouch2me]

I can relate to most of these stories. Glad to be living amoung the finest musicians

[jaco]

i got turned on by my cousin in the 70's and am so grateful for that

to me progressive rock is a fulll music sound that brings other types of music into rock, via composition of skilled musicians amazing other musicians

[gm7b52001]

As a teenager, I used to listen to Allison Steele, and Scott Muney on NYs WNEW.
I am pretty sure it was Scotso that turned me on to King Crimson. In fact I think he debuted "The Court.." on his show, It just blew me away! I was probably stoned at the time.
A friend of mine, who was in band turned me on to "Close to the Edge". He had his stereo wired up to these two huge Custom rolled and pleated sparkle red speaker (you old timers know exactly what I'm talking about) cabinets.
I'm pretty sure I was stoned then too. I never heard anything like it before (or since). This guy later formed a band named Cathedral..not the British one by the same name. They only hand one album .."Stained Glass Stories" It's on the moon, so I try to request cuts from it from time to time when the queue isn't so full.
Some Latin musician friends turned me on to Return to Forever at a party. So I guess that's when I stated to dig fusion. (I'm sure I was stoned that time)
I started listening to Zappa just for the guitar solos, and then later appreciated the jazz composition of his tunes. Ahh.. Inca Roads, Black Napkins.

[Rick and Roll]

As a teenager, I used to listen to Allison Steele, and Scott Muney on NYs WNEW.
I am pretty sure it was Scotso that turned me on to King Crimson. In fact I think he debuted "The Court.." on his show, It just blew me away! I was probably stoned at the time.
A friend of mine, who was in band turned me on to "Close to the Edge". He had his stereo wired up to these two huge Custom rolled and pleated sparkle red speaker (you old timers know exactly what I'm talking about) cabinets.
I'm pretty sure I was stoned then too. I never heard anything like it before (or since). This guy later formed a band named Cathedral..not the British one by the same name. They only hand one album .."Stained Glass Stories" It's on the moon, so I try to request cuts from it from time to time when the queue isn't so full.
Some Latin musician friends turned me on to Return to Forever at a party. So I guess that's when I stated to dig fusion. (I'm sure I was stoned that time)
I started listening to Zappa just for the guitar solos, and then later appreciated the jazz composition of his tunes. Ahh.. Inca Roads, Black Napkins.

Anyone guess the common theme here? ;)

[schupdoggy]

My early musical intersests were Classical (still am a tchaikovsky fan) and the golden age of country. The first rock & roll I listened to was the 50's stuff and A.M. radio songs in the 60's. I finally heared a band called Black Sabbath in the early 70's and instantly became a hard rock fan (Zep, Purple, Grand Funk etc. etc.) I started listening to Wishbone Ash and Jethro Tull a lot during that time as well, along with Pink Floyd, Yes, Genesis, King Crimson, Queen. Most of my friends hated that stuff, but I always dug the time changes and the instumental passages. I've been a prog fan ever since. Still a hard/metal/classical fan (King's X totally kicks butt) but I listen to mostly prog these days.

[mossy]

My music roots pretty much grew out of prog-folk and folk in the 70's - Sandy Denny, Fairport Convention, Strawbs, John Martyn, Pentangle, Amazing Blondel, Incredible String Band, John Renbourn, Jansch, Steeleye Span, Dan Ar Braz, Alain Stivell, Malicorne, Quebecois prog folk groups, and very much Nick Drake. I started on early Genesis at the same time, so it was sort of a parallel line of discovery.

Other than that, grew up with a classical and choral appreciating family.

[artboy]

When I was VERY young.. all I liked was the Monkees (The Birds the Bees and the Monkees still gets a listen to now and then!)... the first album I ever bought was Tommy ....the first band I listened to seriously as a child (early 70's) was Chicago (which had some heavy prog sounds.) The first prog band I REALLY liked was Yes (Yessongs was my first Yes Album...Long Distance Runaround on Yessongs is still my favorite recording of Yes)....next was KC and VDGG...after that Brian Eno stole my soul...I never really liked the Beatles...is that weird?...well I like Blackbird.. the white album...other than I can live without their music....never did much for me.

[Rick and Roll]

When I was VERY young.. all I liked was the Monkees (Daydream Believer RULES!)... the first album I ever bought was Tommy ....the first band I listened to seriously as a child (early 70's) was Chicago (which had some heavy prog sounds.) The first prog band I REALLY liked was Yes (Yessongs was my first Yes Album)....next was KC and VDGG...after that Brian Eno stole my soul...I never really liked the Beatles...is that weird?...well I like Blackbird.. the white album...other than that I can live without their music.

Chicago yes....

How about Rush, Artboy? C'mon you know you want it!:LOL: :LOL: :LOL:

[artboy]

Argent - as always, we'll consider it. Haven't listened to the classic era Argent in a LONG time....

ARGENT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!......needs to be on the Moon!

[artboy]

Chicago yes....

How about Rush, Artboy? C'mon you know you want it!:LOL: :LOL: :LOL:

FUNNY RICK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!.....LOL....Actually... I have 2112 and Fly by Night.. the newer albums are too stylized for my liking

[sharcnorris]

As a young teen in the 60's, 16 in 1969, Hitchhiking Europe in 1971. I lived the Prog Life. I would sit at 3 in the Morning in the Album rock Studio with my DJ friends, smoking weed and Opening all the Newest stuff mailed to the Station... I heard keithie scream on those live LP's when they Came out.

Prog started as pychodelic.Beach Boys, Beatles, Who's Tommy, Spirit, Arthur Lee's Love, Ogden's NutgoneFlake by the Small Faces, Moody Blues, the Nice, Vanilla Fudge, Santana, I think it was the blossoming of True Musicians in a 3 chord world

Thats all I liked, not much american rock, Not the Tweeners, ...Boston, Steely Dan etc

I played Organ to Doors Covers and the Yardbirds on my Farfisa
Late Night I had a transistor Radio under my pillow. I would listen to college Radio Jazz, Organ based Trios, Lionel Hampton's Vibraphones... I was All Keyboards all the time.

I was a fullfledged Anti-War/Nixon Hippie by 1969, I lived 2 hours from Woodstock here in Ct., but minus the Who and Santana ( both I had already seen that year) it wasnt Prog enough for me!
then I heard IN THE COURT, then Yes, and It all exploded.......

I would like to speak to hindsight compared to lived experience.
To get an Lp, live with it for 100's of plays for a year and then get the New release is an evolution in Society. As Pop changed so did Prog, Oldfields Disco Feel, Top 100 Genesis, Camels Single Factor, P.G's sledgehammer, all were evolutions for the time
Judging a Groups whole output is quite differant then growing with them in the time of production. The Artists are the Same, But the Times Changed the Music, as The Music made a Backdrop for the Times.

[spewie]

My roots run very deep, and long. I started understanding Progressive at about the age of 13, while my brothers and sisters were playing AC/DC, Aerosmith, and Nazareth, I was listining to ELO, Guess Who, Styx, and Ambrosia.

It was about 1976 that I was first introduced to the word Progressive, as I was sat down in front of a stereo and had the pleasure of listening to hours of Alan Parsons Project, and Camel. Well to say the least after that I was hooked. About a week later I heard my first broadcast of Greg Stone on a program called Stone Trek that used to play on a staion called KOME in San Jose, CA.

Every Sunday night for 4 hours he would spin the best of Progressive wax, and I would just there mesmorized by it all. If I remeber correctly it took me about a year before I could tell when one song ended and another began. But once I figured that out I never looked back.

My tastes now go in many directions, from Bluegrass, Jazz, Symphopnic, Fusion, and the Grateful Dead (just for the record I will be at the Summer of Love festival in San francisco). But Progressive has always and will always be my first listening choice.

Thanks for the memories!
Spewie!

[OverHillandDale]

My progressive roots go back to what my parents fed me musically as a yute. I got the best of the classics and the avante garde classics as well. I was taught piano, clarinet and later picked up the bass guitar. Along with classical music I also really like jazz, as did my parents. Mostly west coast stuff, Dad was hep on Dixieland, and jazz guitarist Charlie Byrd. My mom liked Mel Torme, Marion McPartland and other simple style pianists. Me, I loved to play Gershwin, Chopin, Liszt

Well, by the 60's an open minded young lad found Chicago Transit Authority and Blood Sweat & Tears. So listening to the top 20 was out of the question. WHFS in Washington D.C. was where I cut my teeth. It was more Psychedelic Rock/Hard Rock but it still led to my introduction to Yes, King Crimson, Genesis, Allman Brothers, Grateful Dead and Rennaissance. But let's not leave out the glam rock coming out in the early70's. David Bowie was tops. And he got a lot of play on the lunchtime radio I ran for my H.S. Cafeteria. As did the Beatles, Allmans, Led Zep, Santana, Hendrix and Doobie Brothers. The bands I played bass for at the time were mostly blues/rock. Clapton, Allmans, Hendrix and the like.

By 72 I had become a split personality. On the one hand I had the hard rock I loved, but Yes was starting to rule my heart and soul. When YesSongs came out, that did it for me. I was forever and always then a YesHead. And what's a bass player not going to admire about Squire. Saw them 3 times within 4 years (tour after yessongs, Relayer, and Topographic Oceans).

This also led a search for other groups and I increased my collection of Genesis, King Crimson, ELP, Nektar, PFM and Flash (peter banks). I almost bought an Arp Synthesizer to further my musical career and possibly go to Berkely College of Music in Boston. But I realized I just didn't have the chops. I was to remain an appreciator rather than a creator. But I did find an artistic outlet in Theatre, where I used my prog rock several times in dance compositions (mostly king crimson - starless/bible black era).

I remain a YesHead to this day, but I respect so much because of what they represent. I respect musicianship. I respect many musical influences and appreciate the jazz influences as well as classical. It's very easy to see when groups have neither, and they ususally don't last long.

Finding Aural Moon has reopened my young passion for this music. I so enjoy having this space to hear new music and share it with like-minds and souls. A place I can get my jazz fix, rock fix, prog fix, and bad mouth Microsoft.:drdot:

[artboy]

When YesSongs came out, that did it for me. I was forever and always then a YesHead. And what's a bass player not going to admire about Squire.

Speaking of Squire....I wore out 4 "Fish out of Water" albums (my favorite album of all time).... Also...glad to see someone else here that found the truth because of Yessongs... that in my humble opinion is the best live album EVER recorded... and the video is just as great!... WHY ON EARTH IS YESSONGS NOT ON THE MOON?????????????????????????????????????????????? ????????????????????????????????????

Also...Robert Moog lived down the street from me...guess his mystique sparked my curiosity in prog during the early 70's

[podakayne]

so i was a child of the midwest listening to motown(sibblings), jazz(mom...and at dad's house jazz & latin stuff was a musician) and classical stuff(me i wanted to do opera) then we moved west to berkeley, ca...during the mid 60's a great time to be there, i'd always liked that "weird" music (you have to remember this is a black household) and psychodelia was at it's height in the bay area. so i had my ears in a lot of different musical genre...i got introduced to a progressive sound i suppose thru a dance teacher (modern) this was gary macfarland jazz(america the beautiful). i really took to that sound as well as emerging artist of the time moody blues, very early pink(which played underground). but i wasn't much paying attention to any artist...my then stepfather called himself giving a gag prize of the beatles st. pepper 8-track to his girls at one point :LOL: he didn't think any of us would like it....one divorce and move back to the midwest later i'm back in chicago, missing CA like crazy, up late doing a mural on the attic wall and surfing the fm dial for musical inspiration....and low i hear greg lake, robert fripp & company playing "i talk to the wind" i was hypnotized the station then went off the air (1 or 2 am)...i looked for them the next day, only to find it played only in the evenings starting about 8, Triad radio with a dj named saul became my chief guru for the next few years. he played "freeform radio" especially and won me over the next week with Yes, ELP, Roxy Music (love ferry...and Eno took my breath away)

it was only then that i started to buy the music and pay attention to some of the individual artist...then i knew "oh i like this because that guy is on it , or producing it(todd rundgren)" etc etc. ...i still liked r&B&soul for dancing, but i bought mostly progressive stuff when i look at what i have...(some rock Chicago, Police, Allman brothers and I love Steely DAN) and i must agree with fellow moonbeam artboy on chris squire i wore out 2 lps and but still have the 3rd lp and bought a cd on fish out of water i so love that album (all that time i thought it was jon i loved, when it was really chris with the solo releases).

had a long period of time w/out music in the mid to late 80's, seattle proved to be a bit barren musically IMO. but with the internet i searched and have rekindled that which is prog in me...

poda..i think that explains me

[Elric68]

When I was a very young boy (8 years), I used to listen to my dad's Genesis records, especially the songs "Firth of Fifth", "Ripples", "Many too Many", "Squonk".

A few years later, he made me discover Hawkwind ("Live Chronicles"), Pendragon ("Not Of This World") and Marillion ("Script For A Jester's Tear"), then made me listen to Jazz-Rock (King Crimson, "USA", Return To Forever). These are my roots.

[Sven]

Born in 62, I grow up with "Pop" or Beat music from the local radio stations SFB, RIAS, AFN and BFBS and the classic music I heard at many weekends I spend with my grandpa, a very enthusiastic Hi-Fi-fan.

From him I get my first tape-recorder, a Telefunken Magnetophon 98. So I started to record many SF-radio plays. There I had my first contact with prog music, as background music for these radio plays.

Absolutly fascinating for me were f.e. Pink Floyd's "Remember a Day" or Hawkwind's "Silver Machine".

In the early seventies, RIAS 2 started a weekly show, every Monday from 10:00 to 10:30 pm - "Musik - Tendenz Progressiv".
A short introduction by one of the two DJs and then one complete side of a LP.
I would simply say: That changes my life.
They play any styles of prog music, from Klaus Schulze to ELP, Popol Vuh to Brain Ticket, CAN to Beggars Opera etc.

Until 74, when I enter the highschool, I spend my money for tapes and SF-/Fantasy-paperbacks (what I still collect), then I get more pocket money and I started to collect LPs.
My first one was Kraftwerk "Radioaktivitaet", many other follows, most of them Prog.

[MonkeyPhoneAlex]

I staretd out listening to alternative rock and classic rock, but i have this very station to thank for getting me into prog about 7 or 8 months ago. The story is that all my Zappa stuff is labeled as progressive rock in iTunes. One day on a whim I went into the radio section of iTunes and opened up the classic rock stations. I saw aural moon, which in the description called iteslef the net's prgressive rock garden, and thought it sounded interesting. I turned it on and was hooked from the very start. I started off with bands like Camel, Ozric Tentacles, and King Crismon, but have since expanded my prog knowledge to all corners of the genre. Currently I'm listening to Magma, Yes, The Flower Kings and dredg alot.

[Mike413]

I was born in 1970 so I missed the first wave of prog as I was way too young to know about it let alone listen to it. My dad had a copy of "the Yes album" which I'm pretty sure I remember seeing and possibly hearing as a young kid but I also remember other albums he had such as ones by The Doobie Brothers, Steely Dan, Santana, The Beatles, GF(RR ), The Doors, Janis Joplin just to name a few. I did like the Beatles starting from about age 7 but for the most part I mostly only remember what was played on the radio and it was mostly pop stuff. I first got into music in a major way around the age of 11 1/2-12 years old. I was mostly into buying top 40 singles at the time and distinctly remember hearing and buying "heat of the moment" when it was a hit but I had no clue at the time about the history of the band members. A few months later I got more into rock and pretty much abandoned top 40/pop stuff altogether. At this point I was buying cassette copies of stuff like Duran Duran, Rush(signals), Journey, Foreigner, etc. I bought Yes's 90125 when it came out and like it but didn't think of it as prog at the time. In the summer of 84 at camp a couple of brothers who were into Yes kind of got me more interested in the group and I subsequently slowly started to buy their stuff. I also had a cousin who was(is)a huge Genesis fan(he liked Yes also)so that helped a lot too. Remember this was the mid 80's and was not the best time to be getting into(or discovering)prog. I distinctly remember my cousin saying to me something like "if you like the earlier Genesis stuff you will like this record called "in the court of the Crimson King." I subsequently bought some KC stuff on cassette. It was a gradual process for me but to me this music was more adventurous and interesting than most regular rock that I heard on the radio. It was special to me then and it still is.

[SqualorMTL]

My roots go back to when my older brother came home with Genesis - Live, then Nursery Cryme and Foxtrot a week later. My sister also had Yessongs. I was really into Sabbath, Deep Purple and Led Zeppelin at the time (1975-76) but these albums really changed the way I listen to rock music, or music in general. I also discovered King Crimson, Gentle Giant and ELP and I've seen all these bands at least once before the 70s were over with my brother (the first time I ever smoked weed was at a Yes concert, Tormato tour) except for King Crimson when I saw the Discipline tour in Montreal in 1980 (?). In the 80s, I embraced punk rock and later, metal. I always went back to listening to the old prog classics when my friends weren't around!

Right now, I listen to pretty much every genre of music. But the constant for me are 70s rock, old school hardcore punk, sludge metal, early industrial and the old prog classics.

[wildk]

I was 12 my brother 19 and he suddenly introduced Family, Floyd, Genesis, Wishbone Ash, Zeppelin into my life - it wouldn't be the same again. I's always loved a great tune, I'd like weird stuff (some beatles) but to me a great tune, then a journey and a return home ( back to a good tune) meant prog to me. I guess that's what makes a good song but I have patience and can string it out for 20 minutes if you like. Suppers Ready heaven but it can be done in 5 - 7 minutes A farewell to Kings. Anything as long as I've travelled and arrived home happy.

[NorCalKurt]

It was 1973. I was at a buddies house after school. He pulled out a album from his older brother's room. It was Frank Zappa. Up till then it was CCR and the like bands of the time. From that point on we found Yes and all the rest of the great " prog" bands of the day. I still enjoy finding out about new bands today. Now my 20 year old son and I go to concerts together. My daughter is one of the top musicians in her graduating class. I feel exposing my kids to the same music I grew up on had a major impact on them. Thank you Frank.

[lamour]

A certain Aural Moon member has prodded me into adding to this apparently dead thread. I tend to be long-winded. I hope this doesn't ramble. ;-)

I was born in 1967 to parents who seemed to be very uninterested in music at all. I remember getting a transistor radio at some point when I was little and listening to AM radio. First song that really stands out in my memory is "Barracuda" by Heart. I pretty much listened to whatever was on the radio until around 7th grade when I started to get into Styx and Kiss and AC/DC. In HS, I was still listening to AC/DC and Judas Priest and Iron Maiden, but I'd started to listen to a "Classic Rock" radio station, and was starting to get into some of what I heard there. Yes, Kansas, Rush, Tull, Led Zeppelin. In college, a friend got turned on to Zappa and Renaissance and introduced me to them. Somewhere in here I picked up Crimson too.

Oh, and that other guy. ;-) I got into Todd Rundgren BIG TIME while I was in college. I heard "Hello It's Me" on the radio one day, and decided that I really liked it. I'd heard it before, but for some reason, it really struck me that day. I bought a LOT of Todd Rundgren. I have pretty much all of it now, and am impatiently awaiting his next release. ;-)

Up to this point, I'd still never heard the term "Progressive Rock". In 1988 or so, I started hanging out on Usenet in the music newsgroups. I picked up Kate Bush and really got into her for a while (her music! sheesh, you people). One day I was talking to someone in rec.music.misc about the music I liked, and he suggested a bunch of other stuff I'd probably be into. As a favor to me, for the cost of the tapes and shipping, he sent me about a dozen cassettes with various stuff on them including GG, Gong, VdGG, PH, Camel, and some other stuff I wasn't into as much. I decided someone needed to do something to make it easier to find more of this great music, so...

I started a mailing list called Gibraltar. My original thought was that the discussions would include Classic Rock music, but the people who subscribed were in it only for the prog, so that's where it went. I ran that for 4 years. I pretty much listened to only prog for those 4 years. I bought a LOT of CDs around then. Picked up some stuff by old bands people seemed to like like PFM, Le Orme, Banco, Can, Ange. Picked up a lot of new bands who seemed to be popular at the time like Anglagard, Anekdoten, Il Berlione, Minimum Vital, Kazumi Watanabe, Happy Family, Deus Ex Machina, Djam Karet, Ozric Tentacles, Univers Zero, Echolyn. After 4 years, just prior to me handing over the mailing list to him, Mike Taylor conducted surveys of the members of the Gibraltar mailing list to get the initial comments that formed the Gibraltar Encyclopedia of Progressive Rock. That is really the only remaining trace of any of that venture at this point.

I got married. I ran out of space to store CDs. I burned out on prog. I pretty much stopped buying CDs at this point. As such, that era is when almost all of my prog was collected. Until I started hanging out on the Moon, I was out of the prog loop entirely.

It's an odd time warp for me on the Moon. It seems like most people on the Moon know the "old" bands they grew up with and the "new" bands who are active now, but are somewhat unfamiliar with the bands who were big at the start of the prog revival when I was getting into it (this was the period when the prog fests started up, and Laser's Edge, Musea, and Cuneiform were starting to crank out CDs). Fueled somewhat by the reissues of old prog on CD, a new generation was being introduced to prog, and I was there for it...and then walked away. So, I don't know many of the old or new bands that everyone else seems to listen to, and it seems few know the bands I listen to.

So, when I say that I've never listened to Focus or Caravan or Soft Machine or whoever, it's not that I've never heard OF them, I've just never had a chance to hear them. I haven't listed EVERY prog band I listen to in this message, but I've listed the ones that I like...which are most of them that I've heard.

(and yes, I am truly not a Genesis or ELP fan. sorry)