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Rick and Roll 07-20-2005 12:02 PM

Remotely speaking...
 
This is one of the main things we'll be doing in a company I'm into is exactly this type of thing. However, it won't be up and running for a while. Additionally, being an accountant, I'm not allowed to participate in any product development.:p

IQ records this way also. I find it a major deterrent to sparking unforgettable live performances.

VAXman 07-20-2005 12:51 PM

Re: Remotely speaking...
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Rick and Roll
This is one of the main things we'll be doing in a company I'm into is exactly this type of thing. However, it won't be up and running for a while. Additionally, being an accountant, I'm not allowed to participate in any product development.:p

IQ records this way also. I find it a major deterrent to sparking unforgettable live performances.

I can see that as being valid. There are studio bands and then there are live bands. Many bands have written great music and record well in the studio, but on stage they seem static and don't really rouse the audience. An act without any real experience performing together just seems certain to have a more difficult time rousing an audience in a live performance.

I was very much looking forward to IQ at NEARfest and, while their songs were played well, they were lackluster in their stage presence. Even John Jowitt -- who I know both you and I have seen perform with Arena and Jadis -- seemed reserved in his IQ appearance. Perhaps he was just trying not to upstage Peter Nicholls. IQ, however, have played together many times in the past decade. So, trying to pin the live performance traits on the recording process doesn't weigh heavily with me.

FWIW, here is one of my fave pix of JJ with Arena.

http://www.tmesis.com/bands_2005/ROS.../IMG_0610M.JPG

He was in top form with Arena.

Rick and Roll 07-20-2005 12:56 PM

Re: Re: Remotely speaking...
 
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Originally posted by VAXman
Even John Jowitt -- who I know both you and I have seen perform with Arena and Jadis -- seemed reserved in his IQ appearance. Perhaps he was just trying not to upstage Peter Nicholls.
I agree. Also he was in pain from those uber-blisters....

zvinki 07-20-2005 01:44 PM

OSI
 
also recorded their CD that way. Damn fine result too!

fremder99 07-20-2005 04:01 PM

B'boom
 
I'm also a drummer! I've got an electronic kit, so recording might be easier. Time might be a trick for me too, but this sounds fun enough for me to make time somewhere!

VAXman 07-20-2005 04:04 PM

Re: B'boom
 
Quote:

Originally posted by fremder99
I'm also a drummer! I've got an electronic kit, so recording might be easier. Time might be a trick for me too, but this sounds fun enough for me to make time somewhere!
Whatcha got?

roger 07-20-2005 04:33 PM

Re: B'boom
 
Quote:

Originally posted by fremder99
I'm also a drummer! I've got an electronic kit, so recording might be easier. Time might be a trick for me too, but this sounds fun enough for me to make time somewhere!
cool, frem! :D

fremder99 07-20-2005 04:37 PM

Re: Re: B'boom
 
Quote:

Originally posted by VAXman
Whatcha got?
The original Roland TD kit (not the V-Drums). 8 dual-zone pads, two kick triggers ,HH pedal, TD-7 box, and ..... a DrumKAT through which I run a couple of PoleKATs.

Loads of old rack synths (TX-802, TG-55, K3m, MKS-70, ...), including my dream machine, an Oberheim Xpander.

This deeply ostentatious display of gear-collecting is tempered by the sad fact that is all lain idle for about a year now... :mad:

Elric68 07-21-2005 04:52 AM

I guess we are enough to begin something now aren't we ?
If people want to join later, they'll still be welcome.

So, who's got an idea of a melody ? I've got some samples recorded already but I don't think they're worth anything. If nobody has any idea I still can upload them on the website Rifftrader at http://rifftrader.com

roger 07-21-2005 07:50 AM

I had a couple of thoughts:

what are the possibilities for notation? does everyone read, at least a little? could we trade some preliminary ideas via notation, and then build from there? if we had ways of getting our ideas into midi files I could quickly turn those into pdfs, and post them.

just a thought.

the other idea was if we shared what time signature, key, and length of phrases we were developing, and then we could, albeit somewhat blindly, write to match.

just brainstorming.... :cool:

Roger -Dot- Lee 07-21-2005 08:18 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by roger
I had a couple of thoughts:

what are the possibilities for notation? does everyone read, at least a little? could we trade some preliminary ideas via notation, and then build from there? if we had ways of getting our ideas into midi files I could quickly turn those into pdfs, and post them.



Well, it'd be hard for them to read your posting if they didn't read, doncha think?

Oh, you mean MUSIC! Sorry, my bad.

Seriously, I read treble clef, Mezzo-Soprano clef, and contra-bass clef (no, I wasn't a music performance major in college. why do you ask? :rolleyes:)

Quote:


just a thought.



And a good one it is indeed...

Quote:


the other idea was if we shared what time signature, key, and length of phrases we were developing, and then we could, albeit somewhat blindly, write to match.



Good idea. Just some suggestions about time signatures: Let's avoid 4/4 and 6/8 if possible. I spent too many years playing (HACK SPIT HORK)John Phillip Souza (also known as The Musical Antichrist) that I tend to avoid those time signatures like the plague. How about a nice soothing 13/8 or perhaps 11/8. Those are always good for prog charts.
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just brainstorming.... :cool:

Good comments indeed, I'd say...

Roger -Dot- Lee, quit playing French Horn because of Souza.

moses 07-21-2005 10:45 AM

lineup
 
Do we have enough people? It looks interesting, that's for sure, but what's our lineup? Is someone keeping track?

I'm not a fan of Sousa either, but you reminded me that in another lifetime (one of toil and blood) I used to play trumpet and could probably get the old lips up to par again without too much difficulty.

Elric68 07-21-2005 11:20 AM

Well Roger your idea is good ... but I don't know anything about musical theory ...

Keys, signatures, etc, are things I know but I never learned to use ... so if you tell me we'll play a song in 13/8 I won't know what it is ... and our notes system isn't the same as yours so 'G' or 'F' mean nothing to me ...

The current lineup is:

Yesspaz: bass guitar if he's able to record on his computer
Roger Lee: euphonium
Toby: cello
Moses: guitars and/or bass
Fremder: drums
Myself: guitars

I forgot who plays synths ...

If this lineup is not correct, well you still can correct it :)

roger 07-21-2005 12:33 PM

Elric, that's cool. no problem, was a just a thought.

as far as G being G, I think we'll be okay on that. ;)

oh, I can play keys. or whatever... :cool:

Yesspaz 07-21-2005 03:10 PM

I don't read music very well. But I read over 50 books a year.

Somebody's gonna have to walk me through every baby step about how this is supposed to work.

Elric68 07-22-2005 05:32 AM

Well I'm leaving for two weeks ... a welcome and long awaited vacation. I'll spend a part of this time to think and find some musical ideas for that project.

Hope you'll have time to do the same. See you in two weeks Moonies, bye !

progdirjim 07-22-2005 11:47 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by zvinki
Our program director is a drummer if my memory serves me right otherwise we can always beg Neil Peart.
if you can get Neil Peart he's much better than me

Yes, I own a drum kit, but I have not done any digital recording. But I'm willing to try.

(After being gone for a week, I'm catching up on this thread, so if someone else volunteered to play drums later in the thread, that's OK too.)

OK, I now see that fremder99 has electronic drums, so let's go with him for now - I probably don't have the time either.

sharcnorris 07-22-2005 05:21 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Elric68


The current lineup is:

Yesspaz: bass guitar if he's able to record on his computer
Roger Lee: euphonium
Toby: cello
Moses: guitars and/or bass
Fremder: drums
Myself: guitars

I forgot who plays synths ...


Still have Korg...This reminds me of phantasy Football....

lotus 07-23-2005 03:44 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Elric68
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The current lineup is:

Yesspaz: bass guitar if he's able to record on his computer
Roger Lee: euphonium
Toby: cello
Moses: guitars and/or bass
Fremder: drums
Myself: guitars



If this lineup is not correct, well you still can correct it :) [/b]
Who volunteers for vocals?

roger 07-23-2005 06:41 AM

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Who volunteers for vocals?
I sing a bit. :D


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