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VAXman 12-17-2007 07:44 PM

Re: How do YOU listen to AM?
 
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Originally Posted by RogorMortis (Post 29854)
Home (office) - Windows Xp - Itunes - 7 speaker system (Winamp for AAC stream when there's trouble with the stream which has been a massive problem lately) Funny Apple doesn't allow Itunes to cope with AAC stream even though they use AAC format for files) I haven't made a a connection to the main stereo system as I don't often use it now as the wife does not like prog.....
Work - Windows Xp - Winamp - 2 quiet speakers

Apple (iTunes) *does* permit AAC streams. We (Aural Moon) do not stream AAC. We stream AACplus (aka HE-AAC v1). This is not AAC. It uses a spectral band replication codec.

AAC was developed by Dolby and was adopted by MPEG (Motion Picture Experts Group) as an international standard. THere is no licensing fee with AAC which makes it more attractive than MP3 which does.

OverHillandDale 12-17-2007 08:36 PM

Re: How do YOU listen to AM?
 
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Originally Posted by Bmithra (Post 29860)
including while showering.:rawk: :rawk: :rawk: :rawk: :rawk:

Bmithra

Okay, that, perhaps, is an image we could have done without. :bash:

Rick and Roll 12-18-2007 06:57 AM

Re: How do YOU listen to AM?
 
I use Windows Media Player, but on occasion have used itunes. For the show, I will rip with the WMP and convert using itunes. However, Winamp has been used in the past and is good.

I only tap into Aural Moon three or four times a week, and rarely at work, so it's not a big deal to me.

gr8sho92 12-18-2007 10:03 AM

Re: How do YOU listen to AM?
 
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Originally Posted by OverHillandDale (Post 29867)
Okay, that, perhaps, is an image we could have done without. :bash:

TMI, right?

But actually I do like to have music with me even there and the Treo 650 is very handy for this.

gr8sho92 12-18-2007 10:07 AM

Re: How do YOU listen to AM?
 
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Originally Posted by Rick and Roll (Post 29871)
I use Windows Media Player, but on occasion have used itunes. For the show, I will rip with the WMP and convert using itunes. However, Winamp has been used in the past and is good.

I only tap into Aural Moon three or four times a week, and rarely at work, so it's not a big deal to me.

You're using this http://wiki.cdyne.com/wiki/index.php?title=Playing_PLS_Winamp_files_in_Window s_Media to play AM in WMP?

gr8sho92 12-18-2007 10:14 AM

Re: How do YOU listen to AM?
 
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Originally Posted by RogorMortis (Post 29854)
Home (office) - Windows Xp - Itunes - 7 speaker system (Winamp for AAC stream when there's trouble with the stream which has been a massive problem lately) Funny Apple doesn't allow Itunes to cope with AAC stream even though they use AAC format for files) I haven't made a a connection to the main stereo system as I don't often use it now as the wife does not like prog.....
Work - Windows Xp - Winamp - 2 quiet speakers

Remember the days when desire for technology meant having a great receiver, speakers, turntable?

Inspired by some of the responses here, I dusted off an old PII 300MHz laptop and connected the audio output into my stereo and cranked up AM through my Sony receiver and Bose speakers. Not bad at all. :D
Unfortunately my family too does not share my liking for prog so I do this when I have the house to myself.

OverHillandDale 12-18-2007 01:42 PM

Re: How do YOU listen to AM?
 
At work: Real Player on Win 2000 thru mediocre computer speakers.

Mobile: Laptop running Win XP - I can use either Real Player (128 feed) or iTunes (58k) and use built in speakers or earphones.

At Home: Sitting at the main computer (server runs Win XP) I'll use Real Player+ (128k) and Harmon karbon speakers with bass floor speaker.

For the house system I use Slim Server 128K feed software which is streamed to a Squeeze Box hooked to Stereo Receiver in living room. Dreaming of multiple receivers throughout the house to come.

Problems I have with iTunes is getting kicked off the stream when really busy.

What I like about real player is .pls ability and I can use the 6-12 hour instant replay feature and go back and play sections I missed in a day. Sometimes it will cause streaming issues, but I just refresh the connection and it's okay.

I love the 128k stream - it's the best on the net. Nobody else sounds as good!!!

Yesspaz 12-18-2007 06:23 PM

Re: How do YOU listen to AM?
 
Vista, Winamp

jrstudioboss 12-19-2007 03:43 PM

Re: How do YOU listen to AM?
 
i-tunes on the G4 tower at home, and winamp, win 2000, and bose wave radio at the studio - I'm curious about the use of the Treo - like the possibilities!

gr8sho92 12-19-2007 04:10 PM

Re: How do YOU listen to AM?
 
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Originally Posted by Rick and Roll (Post 29871)
I use Windows Media Player, but on occasion have used itunes. For the show, I will rip with the WMP and convert using itunes. However, Winamp has been used in the past and is good.

I only tap into Aural Moon three or four times a week, and rarely at work, so it's not a big deal to me.

I looked into this a bit more and figured out what Rick meant. The problem with WMP is that it doesn't understand .PLS files, but it can open any of the MP3 AM streams (but not the AACplus). To do it, you have to click on File and then Open URL and add the appropriate URL. This works fine.I tried it under XP SP2 using v10 of the player. This is still more expensive than Real Player or WinAmp, the former being the cheaper of the 2.

I also have Quicktime on my machine for other reasons and tried that. This is cheaper still by 6MB but you give up seeing the artist and track name in the window. AACplus is not supported or at least I couldn't get it to work.

gr8sho92 12-19-2007 04:16 PM

Re: How do YOU listen to AM?
 
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Originally Posted by jrstudioboss (Post 29942)
I'm curious about the use of the Treo - like the possibilities!

Yes, it's very cool. Like I said, get a good extended life battery as this will kill the standard battery in less than an hour. When I investigated playing shoutcast streams on the 650, I learned at the time that only PocketTunes is coded to support playing in the background on Palm OS. What this means is you can be catching some rays on the beach, listening to very cool music, and browsing the internet or playing games or doing email, etc. Maybe the best part is if someone tries to call you when you're doing this the incoming call will go straight to voicemail. R)

Version 3.1.8 Deluxe is what I have.

Roger -Dot- Lee 12-20-2007 04:23 PM

Re: How do YOU listen to AM?
 
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Originally Posted by Yesspaz (Post 29908)
Vista, Winamp

Damn, Spaz, I'm sorry to hear that.

I listen to AM the same way now that I did when I first found this besainted site oh so long ago: Mac running some flavor of OSX via iTunes. At one point, for one miserable afternoon, I was forced, at gunpoint no less(*), to listen to The Moon on an XP system with Winamp. No matter how much we diddled with it, the 128k stream sounded much like the 56k stream. My friend didn't believe that it sounded better on a Mac. I brought my leeeetle laptop over, plugged his speakers in, and queued up a nice long tune (Pär Lindh Project/Mondus Incomprehensidus, or whatever it's called) and did a nice side-by-side comparison.

I'm proud to say that I was actually able to convince him that the Mac sounded superior. He didn't convert (no surprise, as he codes Flash(**) and ColdFusion(***) for a living), but I managed to plant enough doubt in his mind that he's actually considering it as an alternative.

(*) OK, so it was a staple gun and I was helping a friend install some wiring. Work with me here.

(**) :urp:

(***) :doncab

progdirjim 12-20-2007 04:42 PM

Re: How do YOU listen to AM?
 
Windows XP and Real Player. (iTunes is a crappy piece of software. If the ipod didn't have a 160GB device, I wouldn't even deal with it.)

VAXman 12-20-2007 05:40 PM

Re: How do YOU listen to AM?
 
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Originally Posted by progdirjim (Post 29973)
Windows XP and Real Player. (iTunes is a crappy piece of software. If the ipod didn't have a 160GB device, I wouldn't even deal with it.)

Damn it, Jim. At least put a Warning: Humor notice on your posts when you do that. I spewed the Guinness I had in my mouth on my monitor.

OverHillandDale 12-20-2007 06:06 PM

Re: How do YOU listen to AM?
 
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Originally Posted by VAXman (Post 29975)
Damn it, Jim. At least put a Warning: Humor notice on your posts when you do that. I spewed the Guinness I had in my mouth on my monitor.

You mean you don't have the iSpew Screen for your monitor? I think they have them in coffee, Coca Cola, Milk and Guinness.

lotus 12-20-2007 06:09 PM

Re: How do YOU listen to AM?
 
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Originally Posted by progdirjim (Post 29973)
Windows XP and Real Player. (iTunes is a crappy piece of software. If the ipod didn't have a 160GB device, I wouldn't even deal with it.)

Well Jim, according to Vax (and 90 % of the listeners) your post is a sacrilege..

But I agree 100%. iTunes is crap..The only good thing on it is that it synchronize well with the iPod..And on the iPod I can only comment good things..

Vax, you cannot comment on other players as they are Windows based, and you cannot (or are not willing :) ) to test them..

VAXman 12-20-2007 06:18 PM

Re: How do YOU listen to AM?
 
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Originally Posted by lotus (Post 29978)
Well Jim, according to Vax (and 90 % of the listeners) your post is a sacrilege..

But I agree 100%. iTunes is crap..The only good thing on it is that it synchronize well with the iPod..And on the iPod I can only comment good things..

Vax, you cannot comment on other players as they are Windows based, and you cannot (or are not willing :) ) to test them..

Well, there was an Archos MP3 play here at one time. A complete piece of shit and the software -- well, weendoze only based -- was just as crappy.

Zune has become a non-product. Why? M$ couldn't do anything revolutionary that would have it compete with the iPod.

lotus 12-20-2007 06:33 PM

Re: How do YOU listen to AM?
 
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Originally Posted by VAXman (Post 29979)
Well, there was an Archos MP3 play here at one time. A complete piece of shit and the software -- well, weendoze only based -- was just as crappy.

Zune has become a non-product. Why? M$ couldn't do anything revolutionary that would have it compete with the iPod.

I am listenig with WinAmp, free software, which does not force you to use Quicktime (a 40 Megabyte bomb) to do the setttings..

iTunes just wants you to buy music crap from their site..

OverHillandDale 12-20-2007 06:36 PM

Re: How do YOU listen to AM?
 
You know you can sync your iPod from Real Player. You don't have to use iTunes to do so.

VAXman 12-20-2007 06:40 PM

Re: How do YOU listen to AM?
 
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Originally Posted by OverHillandDale (Post 29982)
You know you can sync your iPod from Real Player. You don't have to use iTunes to do so.

How? Talking about crap software, REAL is REAL CRAP!


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