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gr8sho92 12-16-2007 12:04 PM

How do YOU listen to AM?
 
As MP3 technology is ubiquitous for the most part, there are many many ways to listen to AM. I'll start this off with posting the 2 primary ways I do this.
  1. Laptop computer. running windows XP and using Real Player. I've found Real to be very reliable and has other uses beyone AM. I also use the pause feature from time to time. I primarily use this way when working, with AM streaming in the background.
  2. Mobile Phone. Palm Treo 650 with Seido extended life battery, using Pocket Tunes Deluxe 3.1.8 and an unlimited data plan from Sprint. The power of this method is I can listen to AM virtually anywhere in the USA. The most fun I have with this option is connecting up to AUX in car and listening to AM while driving, or at the beach relaxing.

Cheers

KeithieW 12-16-2007 03:26 PM

Re: How do YOU listen to AM?
 
Windows XP and WinAmp.

Works really well for me.

I have playlists set up for all the different streams so that if one fails the others kick in if necessary.

I also have different playlists for different stations.

Rick and Roll 12-16-2007 03:49 PM

Re: How do YOU listen to AM?
 
with my ears of course!

gr8sho92 12-16-2007 04:36 PM

Re: How do YOU listen to AM?
 
:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
Quote:

Originally Posted by Rick and Roll (Post 29806)
with my ears of course!


gr8sho92 12-16-2007 04:42 PM

Re: How do YOU listen to AM?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by KeithieW (Post 29805)
Windows XP and WinAmp.

Works really well for me.

I have playlists set up for all the different streams so that if one fails the others kick in if necessary.

I also have different playlists for different stations.

Yep, that's a good one too although I've seen cases where Winamp would skip. Not sure why.

Interestingly XP doesn't have a native player that recognizes .PLS files. I've always had a player installed that was capable of playing .PLS so the problem never hit me, but I recently ran into a case where I had sent a link for AM to a friend that also enjoys prog and I got back a question saying it didn't play with windows medial player.

P.S. Vax, I see that there is a link in the FAQ for the question of listening to AM. Were you going post the stuff I sent you?

VAXman 12-16-2007 05:20 PM

Re: How do YOU listen to AM?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by gr8sho92 (Post 29808)
Yep, that's a good one too although I've seen cases where Winamp would skip. Not sure why.

It runs on Weendoze... nuff said.


Quote:

Originally Posted by gr8sho92 (Post 29808)
Interestingly XP doesn't have a native player that recognizes .PLS files. I've always had a player installed that was capable of playing .PLS so the problem never hit me, but I recently ran into a case where I had sent a link for AM to a friend that also enjoys prog and I got back a question saying it didn't play with windows medial player.

Shhhh... or the evil one and his Miscreant Idiot Coding Rejects Outputting Specious Often Flawed Technology - Redmond Academy of Teenaged Software Neophytes Emitting Substandard Technology cut-throats, you don't have any choice here is where you are going to go today whether you like it or not, criminal monopoly will cram yet another half-baked ill-conceived piece of shitware up everybody's arse and then declare it the standard -- not adherent to any actual standards -- music player.


Quote:

Originally Posted by gr8sho92 (Post 29808)
P.S. Vax, I see that there is a link in the FAQ for the question of listening to AM. Were you going post the stuff I sent you?

When I get to it....


Now to the thread question... listening to Aural Moon...

17" Powerbook with iTunes. Aural Moon is then streamed to an Air Port Express which is connected to a Bose Companion 3 sound system. Therefore, I am free to roam about without ever losing sound.

On the road, I listen to Aural Moon with my Powerbook and iTunes. I have a Sprint EVDO card which gives me internet access (via cell phone mobile network) anywhere I go. I have a piece of software called InsomniaX which, when activated, allows me to close the Powerbook without it going to sleep. Once tuned in, I can safely store the Powerbook away.

FWIW, about 9 out of every 10 Aural Moon listeners uses iTunes.

mossy 12-16-2007 08:11 PM

Re: How do YOU listen to AM?
 
That's a high percentage on itunes, vax. I had no idea.

Like kw, we use Windows XP but have VLC Media Player.

At work, Windows XP and WinAmp

NorCalKurt 12-16-2007 08:36 PM

Re: How do YOU listen to AM?
 
As loud as I can get away with.:knowing:

prickly 12-17-2007 05:25 AM

Re: How do YOU listen to AM?
 
of course iTunes...

lotus 12-17-2007 05:39 AM

Re: How do YOU listen to AM?
 
Windows XP Winamp. Puter connected via a M-Audio sound card to Hifi..

schupdoggy 12-17-2007 07:16 AM

Re: How do YOU listen to AM?
 
In the house - home pc / windows xp / winamp / pc speakers (Harmon Kardon)
At the store - laptop / windows xp / winamp / pc speakers (Harmon Kardon)
In the garage - laptop / windows xp / winamp / home stereo (Yamaha - 1000 watts per channel)

KeithieW 12-17-2007 08:14 AM

Re: How do YOU listen to AM?
 
9 out of ten use iTunes eh?

They must be the ones who don't post in the forums...... :)

gr8sho92 12-17-2007 08:44 AM

Re: How do YOU listen to AM?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by KeithieW (Post 29831)
9 out of ten use iTunes eh?

They must be the ones who don't post in the forums...... :)

:LOL:

Vax, can you tell from the server logs how users are connecting?

While I own an iPod, I don't use iTunes on my laptop. On Windows, this application is very expensive memory-wise and loads a bunch of crap into memory at startup.

PeterG 12-17-2007 08:54 AM

Re: How do YOU listen to AM?
 
At work: Macintosh G5-> iTunes-> crappy external PC speakers

Home: Macintosh G5 -> iTunes -> Nice Computer Speakers
and
-> Wireless to Airport Express-> to Living room Stereo (10 speakers)
-> Wireless to Master Bedroom Stereo
-> Wireless to Workshop Stereo

Can get the whole house crankin' 8-)

(JV too!) :D

GORT 12-17-2007 09:14 AM

Re: How do YOU listen to AM?
 
I use itunes too

VAXman 12-17-2007 10:37 AM

Re: How do YOU listen to AM?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by gr8sho92 (Post 29832)
:LOL:

Vax, can you tell from the server logs how users are connecting?

Yes I can which is why I said that.



Quote:

Originally Posted by gr8sho92 (Post 29832)
While I own an iPod, I don't use iTunes on my laptop. On Windows, this application is very expensive memory-wise and loads a bunch of crap into memory at startup.

Anything on Weendoze is bloat. The programming paradigm and model for Weendoze is bloat, bloat bloat and more bloat.

What they call DLLs were intended to be shareable libraries (born of the shareable image library concept in VMS and taken to Weendoze NT by Dave Cutler). However, the Miscreant Idiot Coding Rejects Outputting Specious Often Flawed Technology permitted anyone and their grandmothers to load DLLs. Thus, you install a piece of software on Weendoze and hundreds of shared (DLLs) images are loaded. There's no reason to write them as DLLs if you are not going to share and or publish the API so that others could use them as well.

Sing this to the tune of Row, Row, Row your boat:
Bloat, bloat, bloat your OS,
Force apps not to be lean.
Memory, memory, memory, memory...
its consumption is obscene!

RogorMortis 12-17-2007 12:26 PM

Re: How do YOU listen to AM?
 
Home (office) - Windows Xp - Itunes - 7 speaker system (Winamp for AAC stream when there's trouble with the stream which has been a massive problem lately) Funny Apple doesn't allow Itunes to cope with AAC stream even though they use AAC format for files) I haven't made a a connection to the main stereo system as I don't often use it now as the wife does not like prog.....
Work - Windows Xp - Winamp - 2 quiet speakers

MrMagoo 12-17-2007 03:07 PM

Re: How do YOU listen to AM?
 
Home: Mac/iTunes, optionally fed to RocketFM for the house amp
Work: WinXP/Winamp with headphones

Bmithra 12-17-2007 04:48 PM

Re: How do YOU listen to AM?
 
PC with XP using winamp, pre aol version, with Cambridge Soundworks PC speakers. Six speakers. Can crank it loud enough to hear anywhere in the house, including while showering.:rawk: :rawk: :rawk: :rawk: :rawk:

Bmithra

jtmckinley 12-17-2007 05:07 PM

Re: How do YOU listen to AM?
 
Downstairs in studio: Windows XP running Winamp, either through my near-field monitors or through the PA depending on volume level desired.

Upstairs in TV room: Ubuntu Linux with Totem movie player through my home theater system. Sometimes I'll also listen via Xbox 360 through home theater system whilst playing a game, but not that often.

Work: Windows 2000 running Winamp through headphones.

VAXman 12-17-2007 07:44 PM

Re: How do YOU listen to AM?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by RogorMortis (Post 29854)
Home (office) - Windows Xp - Itunes - 7 speaker system (Winamp for AAC stream when there's trouble with the stream which has been a massive problem lately) Funny Apple doesn't allow Itunes to cope with AAC stream even though they use AAC format for files) I haven't made a a connection to the main stereo system as I don't often use it now as the wife does not like prog.....
Work - Windows Xp - Winamp - 2 quiet speakers

Apple (iTunes) *does* permit AAC streams. We (Aural Moon) do not stream AAC. We stream AACplus (aka HE-AAC v1). This is not AAC. It uses a spectral band replication codec.

AAC was developed by Dolby and was adopted by MPEG (Motion Picture Experts Group) as an international standard. THere is no licensing fee with AAC which makes it more attractive than MP3 which does.

OverHillandDale 12-17-2007 08:36 PM

Re: How do YOU listen to AM?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Bmithra (Post 29860)
including while showering.:rawk: :rawk: :rawk: :rawk: :rawk:

Bmithra

Okay, that, perhaps, is an image we could have done without. :bash:

Rick and Roll 12-18-2007 06:57 AM

Re: How do YOU listen to AM?
 
I use Windows Media Player, but on occasion have used itunes. For the show, I will rip with the WMP and convert using itunes. However, Winamp has been used in the past and is good.

I only tap into Aural Moon three or four times a week, and rarely at work, so it's not a big deal to me.

gr8sho92 12-18-2007 10:03 AM

Re: How do YOU listen to AM?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by OverHillandDale (Post 29867)
Okay, that, perhaps, is an image we could have done without. :bash:

TMI, right?

But actually I do like to have music with me even there and the Treo 650 is very handy for this.

gr8sho92 12-18-2007 10:07 AM

Re: How do YOU listen to AM?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Rick and Roll (Post 29871)
I use Windows Media Player, but on occasion have used itunes. For the show, I will rip with the WMP and convert using itunes. However, Winamp has been used in the past and is good.

I only tap into Aural Moon three or four times a week, and rarely at work, so it's not a big deal to me.

You're using this http://wiki.cdyne.com/wiki/index.php?title=Playing_PLS_Winamp_files_in_Window s_Media to play AM in WMP?

gr8sho92 12-18-2007 10:14 AM

Re: How do YOU listen to AM?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by RogorMortis (Post 29854)
Home (office) - Windows Xp - Itunes - 7 speaker system (Winamp for AAC stream when there's trouble with the stream which has been a massive problem lately) Funny Apple doesn't allow Itunes to cope with AAC stream even though they use AAC format for files) I haven't made a a connection to the main stereo system as I don't often use it now as the wife does not like prog.....
Work - Windows Xp - Winamp - 2 quiet speakers

Remember the days when desire for technology meant having a great receiver, speakers, turntable?

Inspired by some of the responses here, I dusted off an old PII 300MHz laptop and connected the audio output into my stereo and cranked up AM through my Sony receiver and Bose speakers. Not bad at all. :D
Unfortunately my family too does not share my liking for prog so I do this when I have the house to myself.

OverHillandDale 12-18-2007 01:42 PM

Re: How do YOU listen to AM?
 
At work: Real Player on Win 2000 thru mediocre computer speakers.

Mobile: Laptop running Win XP - I can use either Real Player (128 feed) or iTunes (58k) and use built in speakers or earphones.

At Home: Sitting at the main computer (server runs Win XP) I'll use Real Player+ (128k) and Harmon karbon speakers with bass floor speaker.

For the house system I use Slim Server 128K feed software which is streamed to a Squeeze Box hooked to Stereo Receiver in living room. Dreaming of multiple receivers throughout the house to come.

Problems I have with iTunes is getting kicked off the stream when really busy.

What I like about real player is .pls ability and I can use the 6-12 hour instant replay feature and go back and play sections I missed in a day. Sometimes it will cause streaming issues, but I just refresh the connection and it's okay.

I love the 128k stream - it's the best on the net. Nobody else sounds as good!!!

Yesspaz 12-18-2007 06:23 PM

Re: How do YOU listen to AM?
 
Vista, Winamp

jrstudioboss 12-19-2007 03:43 PM

Re: How do YOU listen to AM?
 
i-tunes on the G4 tower at home, and winamp, win 2000, and bose wave radio at the studio - I'm curious about the use of the Treo - like the possibilities!

gr8sho92 12-19-2007 04:10 PM

Re: How do YOU listen to AM?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Rick and Roll (Post 29871)
I use Windows Media Player, but on occasion have used itunes. For the show, I will rip with the WMP and convert using itunes. However, Winamp has been used in the past and is good.

I only tap into Aural Moon three or four times a week, and rarely at work, so it's not a big deal to me.

I looked into this a bit more and figured out what Rick meant. The problem with WMP is that it doesn't understand .PLS files, but it can open any of the MP3 AM streams (but not the AACplus). To do it, you have to click on File and then Open URL and add the appropriate URL. This works fine.I tried it under XP SP2 using v10 of the player. This is still more expensive than Real Player or WinAmp, the former being the cheaper of the 2.

I also have Quicktime on my machine for other reasons and tried that. This is cheaper still by 6MB but you give up seeing the artist and track name in the window. AACplus is not supported or at least I couldn't get it to work.

gr8sho92 12-19-2007 04:16 PM

Re: How do YOU listen to AM?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jrstudioboss (Post 29942)
I'm curious about the use of the Treo - like the possibilities!

Yes, it's very cool. Like I said, get a good extended life battery as this will kill the standard battery in less than an hour. When I investigated playing shoutcast streams on the 650, I learned at the time that only PocketTunes is coded to support playing in the background on Palm OS. What this means is you can be catching some rays on the beach, listening to very cool music, and browsing the internet or playing games or doing email, etc. Maybe the best part is if someone tries to call you when you're doing this the incoming call will go straight to voicemail. R)

Version 3.1.8 Deluxe is what I have.

Roger -Dot- Lee 12-20-2007 04:23 PM

Re: How do YOU listen to AM?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Yesspaz (Post 29908)
Vista, Winamp

Damn, Spaz, I'm sorry to hear that.

I listen to AM the same way now that I did when I first found this besainted site oh so long ago: Mac running some flavor of OSX via iTunes. At one point, for one miserable afternoon, I was forced, at gunpoint no less(*), to listen to The Moon on an XP system with Winamp. No matter how much we diddled with it, the 128k stream sounded much like the 56k stream. My friend didn't believe that it sounded better on a Mac. I brought my leeeetle laptop over, plugged his speakers in, and queued up a nice long tune (Pär Lindh Project/Mondus Incomprehensidus, or whatever it's called) and did a nice side-by-side comparison.

I'm proud to say that I was actually able to convince him that the Mac sounded superior. He didn't convert (no surprise, as he codes Flash(**) and ColdFusion(***) for a living), but I managed to plant enough doubt in his mind that he's actually considering it as an alternative.

(*) OK, so it was a staple gun and I was helping a friend install some wiring. Work with me here.

(**) :urp:

(***) :doncab

progdirjim 12-20-2007 04:42 PM

Re: How do YOU listen to AM?
 
Windows XP and Real Player. (iTunes is a crappy piece of software. If the ipod didn't have a 160GB device, I wouldn't even deal with it.)

VAXman 12-20-2007 05:40 PM

Re: How do YOU listen to AM?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by progdirjim (Post 29973)
Windows XP and Real Player. (iTunes is a crappy piece of software. If the ipod didn't have a 160GB device, I wouldn't even deal with it.)

Damn it, Jim. At least put a Warning: Humor notice on your posts when you do that. I spewed the Guinness I had in my mouth on my monitor.

OverHillandDale 12-20-2007 06:06 PM

Re: How do YOU listen to AM?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by VAXman (Post 29975)
Damn it, Jim. At least put a Warning: Humor notice on your posts when you do that. I spewed the Guinness I had in my mouth on my monitor.

You mean you don't have the iSpew Screen for your monitor? I think they have them in coffee, Coca Cola, Milk and Guinness.

lotus 12-20-2007 06:09 PM

Re: How do YOU listen to AM?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by progdirjim (Post 29973)
Windows XP and Real Player. (iTunes is a crappy piece of software. If the ipod didn't have a 160GB device, I wouldn't even deal with it.)

Well Jim, according to Vax (and 90 % of the listeners) your post is a sacrilege..

But I agree 100%. iTunes is crap..The only good thing on it is that it synchronize well with the iPod..And on the iPod I can only comment good things..

Vax, you cannot comment on other players as they are Windows based, and you cannot (or are not willing :) ) to test them..

VAXman 12-20-2007 06:18 PM

Re: How do YOU listen to AM?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by lotus (Post 29978)
Well Jim, according to Vax (and 90 % of the listeners) your post is a sacrilege..

But I agree 100%. iTunes is crap..The only good thing on it is that it synchronize well with the iPod..And on the iPod I can only comment good things..

Vax, you cannot comment on other players as they are Windows based, and you cannot (or are not willing :) ) to test them..

Well, there was an Archos MP3 play here at one time. A complete piece of shit and the software -- well, weendoze only based -- was just as crappy.

Zune has become a non-product. Why? M$ couldn't do anything revolutionary that would have it compete with the iPod.

lotus 12-20-2007 06:33 PM

Re: How do YOU listen to AM?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by VAXman (Post 29979)
Well, there was an Archos MP3 play here at one time. A complete piece of shit and the software -- well, weendoze only based -- was just as crappy.

Zune has become a non-product. Why? M$ couldn't do anything revolutionary that would have it compete with the iPod.

I am listenig with WinAmp, free software, which does not force you to use Quicktime (a 40 Megabyte bomb) to do the setttings..

iTunes just wants you to buy music crap from their site..

OverHillandDale 12-20-2007 06:36 PM

Re: How do YOU listen to AM?
 
You know you can sync your iPod from Real Player. You don't have to use iTunes to do so.

VAXman 12-20-2007 06:40 PM

Re: How do YOU listen to AM?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by OverHillandDale (Post 29982)
You know you can sync your iPod from Real Player. You don't have to use iTunes to do so.

How? Talking about crap software, REAL is REAL CRAP!


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