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MauiBassPlayer 06-20-2008 03:59 PM

Aural Moon Band
 
Is it possible? I am sure there are some musicians on the Moon. Is there a way to bring us together via the technology of the computer? Could we lay down a recording and have someone mix it together? what are your thoughts?
As always, aloha

progzealot 06-20-2008 06:22 PM

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I have a cowbell !!

kirk 06-20-2008 06:41 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by MauiBassPlayer (Post 35397)
Is it possible? I am sure there are some musicians on the Moon. Is there a way to bring us together via the technology of the computer? Could we lay down a recording and have someone mix it together? what are your thoughts?
As always, aloha

You may want to post what instrument(s) you play...
but yes, it's not only possible, but relatively easy.

We've started down this road a few times, but for some reason
it dies on the vine. In all fairness, I've seen the same thing happen
on other sites.

Kirk

MauiBassPlayer 06-21-2008 12:57 PM

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well, i guess it could die on the vine as you say. I think the first step would be to identify the musicians on here. I for one play bass. If nothing else, let's see who responds and see what we can learn from each other.
Ken

prickly 06-22-2008 06:51 AM

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Well, before the ravens left the tower I could help with mellow drums, atmosphere or little lead keyboards, lyrics (song titles) and perhaps some Mountain King ooohs and aaahs.

I am (or was) a part of The Beardedsproject. You need six or eight people who have main song ideas and you have to know their musically roots, basics, spectrums & abilities and their speed of work. You must be ready for swallow things down if the others don't like your ideas. Make sure that they will be impassionate, loyal and have open minds for music that they won't play at normally.

We need sixteen months for our maintrack Hope, so if you want to rock on X-mas 2009...

MauiBassPlayer 06-22-2008 02:26 PM

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very interesting website. perhaps if someone were to start it with a main theme, and then anyone who wants to add something can on an individual track, then someone can take the role of mixing it together.
Ken

Andyyyy 06-22-2008 07:51 PM

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What if we start with a half baked idea...an unfinished composition put up here to inspire others to add to it. OR...a ready composition which just needs some additional instrumentation...anyone have anything? 8-)

Andyyyy 06-22-2008 08:11 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by kirk (Post 35403)
You may want to post what instrument(s) you play...
but yes, it's not only possible, but relatively easy.

We've started down this road a few times, but for some reason
it dies on the vine. In all fairness, I've seen the same thing happen
on other sites.

Kirk

Hey Kirk!

Long time no see! It has happened on other sites, it's died on the vines, and it has also succeeded. On the Gentle Giant forum, we are on our 4th (or 5th since the first one was a double). Matter of fact, it was just released and I anxiously await for it to be added to AM's playlist, I hope. We even had another Moony take part in this one- Rob Grant (yorksrvc) played bass on a prog epic about 14 minutes in length or so I did with Glenn Lilljeblad.

There was a very good album made by the folks on the Eddie Jobson forum, Theme of Appreciation. http://www.repple.se/toa/

It does take an organizer, someone who will keep things going and keep people who have tiring day jobs motivated.

I will be happy to contribute musically if anyone likes, and I could help with what I have learned, but I'm already stretched with our project, so that would be the limit of my participation. But we can have some fun!

MauiBassPlayer 06-23-2008 01:40 AM

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sounds great Andy!!

Lellu 06-23-2008 02:32 AM

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Here is a guitarist with at least decent playing skills but no composing experience.

Wojtek 06-23-2008 11:20 AM

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First AM project was set up in 2004 (if I remember well) so "AM bands" is in general a pretty long tradition of going nowhere ;). As some of Moonbuds already said: it dies on the vine.

In terms of music creation via Internet I have 4 years of experience. But in terms of achieved results I could be considered total layman. It's sooooooo hard to find bunch of people who are willing to work on something more than 1/3 of the song. Song is a success, epic is a miracle, album is... at least unlikely.

If you want just to play around some sounds, it is easy. If you'd like to record good piece of music without asking 30 people to join, it's hard. Very hard.

If I knew that earlier I'm not sure if I would be setting up all those projects. 4 years of waiting and begging. The biggest problems with the guitarists btw :P.

MauiBassPlayer 06-23-2008 01:35 PM

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Thanks Wojtek for the insight.

Andyyyy 06-23-2008 02:16 PM

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HI Wojtek, Lellu & Ken,
Perhaps what made the other projects get off the ground was the fact that we were getting submissions from people already in bands, or people who did all the parts to their music. But there were a few collaborations. In the case of one of my songs on the latest project, we had 3 keyboard players, a bass player, a drummer, 2 guitar players. I suppose we got lucky in that when each one sent a part, I liked all the parts and incorporated them into the piece. Sometimes, you won't like a part sent to you, then you tell the other person and there are hurt feelings. In projects like this, you have to accept that someone might not like your ideas. I've had times where I changed my song because someone had a better idea, so to make this work, we need to be willing to accept rejection as well as accepting a new way to look at our own compositions...we also need more musicians to participate....so, who's in? :rockband: :rockband: :rockband:

Looks like I just repeated in different words what Prickly said...

BTW, we also need musicians who have the equipment to record as well...

MauiBassPlayer 06-23-2008 03:23 PM

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Andy, thanks to the response. I think all the responses have been useful. As for me, I can handle rejection quite well. I have good equipment, I have a fender jazz bass, fretless, and a alembic spoiler, I have a roland digital recording board as well. I have never participated in something like this, but I am ready to in whatever capacity I can.
Ken

Sintetista 06-23-2008 04:32 PM

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I´m inn, KBDs

roger 06-24-2008 10:52 AM

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kirk and I have thrown a couple of ideas around in the past, and I'd enjoy being part of this one, too. keys, vocals, bass, rhythm guitar, Logic Studio, and more ideas than I know what to do with...

http://www.virb.com/etaoing

jtmckinley 06-24-2008 07:24 PM

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I play guitar (main axe), bit of keys, bit of bass, bit of drums, bit of mandolin, bit of prolly whatever other stringed instrument might be useful and would be willing to help if needed. It's been a while since I've done much music-wise, but again I'm willing to help with playing, mixing, engineering etc. if needed. There's a home studio post in the forums moono started where I listed my gear for anyone who's curious.

I also have a tune I wrote to a friend's lyrics a while back that never went anywhere, certainly not finished by any means, it's sorta proggy, and the guy that wrote the lyrics thought it was cool as did a few others who heard it, but yet it died on the vine. I'm playing everything on the current demo including drumKAT drums I borrowed from the lyrics author so it's current state could clearly be improved lol. Also the vox are done with a vocoder at this point. Willing to donate it for reworkage if anybody thought it was worthwhile to try, but will not be at all offended if it hits the dustbin, that's where it is now after all...

jtmckinley 06-24-2008 07:26 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by roger (Post 35507)
kirk and I have thrown a couple of ideas around in the past, and I'd enjoy being part of this one, too. keys, vocals, bass, rhythm guitar, Logic Studio, and more ideas than I know what to do with...

http://www.virb.com/etaoing

There's some cool stuff on that web page roger, thanks for sharing! :)

Rick and Roll 06-24-2008 07:58 PM

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You have to sound better than the dudes at the after party playing bongoes and beer bottles to Suppers Ready.:hrm:

Andyyyy 06-24-2008 11:03 PM

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As long as those bongos and beer bottles can handle the 9/8, we're in business!

Andyyyy 06-25-2008 12:14 AM

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What exactly are we talking about doing here. We have many options. Do we want to put together a CDR? Or do we want to jsut do a few songs together? Roger has some pretty complete music (to my ears) and if he's willing, we can start filling up a CDR, depending on how things flow together...JT has a tune, others might also. We can also try a group effort composition...

Rick and Roll 06-25-2008 06:37 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Andyyyy (Post 35540)
As long as those bongos and beer bottles can handle the 9/8, we're in business!

Well he said it was 9/8...I'm not qualified to tell but I was skeptical.

Strike while the iron is hot folks...Andy is very good at this and I'd be stoked to hear what is developed.

a.f.held 06-25-2008 07:30 AM

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Hi!
At first - I sing & play background acoustic guitar (yep, brave words, I know :)) )
And at second - what about starting with some cover first? Something easy, commonly known, Comfortably Numb or anything like that?


Take care!!


:rockband:

Lellu 06-25-2008 01:29 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by a.f.held (Post 35557)
Hi!
At first - I sing & play background acoustic guitar (yep, brave words, I know :)) )
And at second - what about starting with some cover first? Something easy, commonly known, Comfortably Numb or anything like that?


Take care!!


:rockband:

With a cover "the band" could practise recording, mixing and communicating. Then when the real thing comes lots of tears of frustation will hopefully be spared :D

Andyyyy 06-26-2008 12:11 AM

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Well, if we want to put something together and maybe have it played on the Moon, I'm not sure if we can do a cover for that purpose without paying royalties...anyone know?

Moonoffruits96 06-26-2008 03:06 AM

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I'd be happy to donate keyboards and drum parts and percussions parts and a dash of guitars

Andyyyy 06-26-2008 03:38 PM

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So, Ken, Mr. Maui Bass, will you head this up?
:notworthy :notworthy :notworthy :thumbsup:

Borfus 06-26-2008 04:00 PM

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I'm interested. I play guitar and bass and some keys, but mostly guitar. I can sing fairly well, too. I've got a ProTools rig at my disposal, but no internet connection in the studio.
I'm curious as to how to deal with audio file portability and transfer - any ideas?

Borfus

www.myspace.com/borfuswallabymusic
www.myspace.com/studiohband
www.everydayprophets.com

roger 06-27-2008 09:24 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by jtmckinley (Post 35529)
There's some cool stuff on that web page roger, thanks for sharing! :)

thanks, jt!

Andyyyy 06-27-2008 09:44 AM

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I've heard some of your material- Roger, Kirk, Borfus and others, and know the ideas and playing is very good, so this can be interesting to mix up all these styles!

As to transfer of files, we can use www.yousendit.com ...works rather well and free (free account file size cannot be larger than 100 M).

MauiBassPlayer 06-28-2008 01:40 AM

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Wow, this is pretty cool, great responses from everyone. I mainly play bass as you all know. as far as heading this up, I have never done that. Maybe there is a way to have a conference call of some sort to talk it over and see what comes of up?
Ken

MauiBassPlayer 06-29-2008 03:28 AM

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keep it goin

progdirjim 06-30-2008 01:40 AM

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I offer my lyric writing capabilities. I have a drum set and am willing to play but still a novice in terms of recording. Last time this subject arose I wrote "Earth Without the Moon" which I'll post again. And I can certainly write something to any composed musical ideas...

MauiBassPlayer 06-30-2008 02:25 AM

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sounds great Jim

progdirjim 06-30-2008 03:32 AM

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This is pasted from a thread a few years back...and I don't think any Moonies would steal my lyrics, but I have copyrighted them...

Third verse picks up the tempo; "interconnected orbits" is staccato and bridges into an instrumental section; "goodbye satellite" begins the resolution completed with the last half verse...

"Gazing at the stars leads to galactic aspirations
Howling at the moon became our lunar inspiration
But all within the solar system’s slightly out of tune
When we consider earth without the moon

Ancient lore and relics buried deep within the ground
Illuminate and demonstrate the wisdom we have found
A message from the ancients carved in stone in mystic runes
Never live on earth without the moon

Geopolitical altercations are a hyperactive display
Pessimists always predicting radioactive decay
Looking back I’ll have to say it ended all too soon
If we end up on earth without the moon

Interconnected orbits
Tides of history
Growing concentric circles
Escape velocity

Good bye Satellite
We will miss your light
Sanctify the night
God, it felt so right

Someday in the future we’ll emerge from our cocoon
And recreate our earth within the moon"

jtmckinley 06-30-2008 06:02 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by progdirjim (Post 35744)
This is pasted from a thread a few years back...and I don't think any Moonies would steal my lyrics, but I have copyrighted them...

Third verse picks up the tempo; "interconnected orbits" is staccato and bridges into an instrumental section; "goodbye satellite" begins the resolution completed with the last half verse...

"Gazing at the stars leads to galactic aspirations
Howling at the moon became our lunar inspiration
But all within the solar system’s slightly out of tune
When we consider earth without the moon

Ancient lore and relics buried deep within the ground
Illuminate and demonstrate the wisdom we have found
A message from the ancients carved in stone in mystic runes
Never live on earth without the moon

Geopolitical altercations are a hyperactive display
Pessimists always predicting radioactive decay
Looking back I’ll have to say it ended all too soon
If we end up on earth without the moon

Interconnected orbits
Tides of history
Growing concentric circles
Escape velocity

Good bye Satellite
We will miss your light
Sanctify the night
God, it felt so right

Someday in the future we’ll emerge from our cocoon
And recreate our earth within the moon"

Cool Jim, those lyrics would make a good AM tune, I might suggest a few changes if allowed, for example maybe:

Gazing at the stars leads to galactic aspirations
Howling at the moon became our lunar inspiration
But all within the solar system’s slightly out of tune
When we consider Earth without the Moon

Ancient lore and relics buried deep within the ground
Illuminate and demonstrate the wisdom we have found
A message from the ancients carved in stone in mystic runes
They never lived on Earth without the Moon

Political manipulation provides a distracting display
Opportunists demanding orbital decay
Had they succeeded it would have ended all too soon
Alas to live upon the Earth without the Moon

Interconnected orbits
Tides of history
Growing in concentric circles
We reach escape velocity

Hello Satellite
We all love your light
It sanctifies our nights
God, it feels so right

Someday in the future we’ll emerge from our cocoon
And recreate our Earth within the Moon


Since the Moon is not going anywhere soon (I hope, say it ain't so!) :) Not that my edits are any better, but they kinda tie it into the recent RIAA threat, of course I don't know what was in your head when you wrote it. Got any music to go with the lyrics yet?

thehealingroad 07-02-2008 01:09 PM

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If I recall all the experiences I made with www.thebeardedsproject.de I think it's very important that there is a "nucleus" of some people who really want to put something together. We had a bunch of guys who were determined to bring it to a good end even if it gets difficult. It's about dedication, compromises and the ability to be a teamplayer. And it's about respect.

It's not always been easy but I had lots of good times being a part of The Bearded's Project. And I learned so much !!! If you take part in a project like this you'll be able to exchange knowledge and experience with other musicians. So it's also a chance for everyone to improve their sound, their mixing abilities, their songwriting and so on.

... and if it works it will make all the members very very proud, maybe some of them will become very good friends. That's what happened with our project.

Kind regards,
hans

Rick and Roll 07-02-2008 02:06 PM

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To add to what Hans says, there needs to be a leader or a decision group.

thehealingroad 07-02-2008 02:25 PM

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Yes, Rick, that's another important thing. Just one example: someone will have to mix the whole thing. This job is important and difficult. Everyone has to give his or her tracks into the hands of this person and everyone has to accept what "the producer" will make it sound like in the end. That has to be made clear. Everyone can make suggestions, everyone can throw in his ideas, but at the end of the day you do have to accept the mixing guy's (or gal's) decision even if it's not sounding like you want it to. Otherwise it won't work.

Steve Johnson 07-02-2008 03:58 PM

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I play guitar (classical and electric), bass, mountain dulcimer; Lead and harmony vocals; experienced songwriter/arranger; Lyricist/conceptualist; Good equipment all around.

I have a Roland guitar synth also.


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