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lotus 10-15-2008 03:48 PM

Moon O'Poll 2008 / RFW
 
First of all I hope Wojtek appears soon and declares that he is willing to do the Moon O'Poll 2008 preserving the good tradition!!

In order to let us Monies, who are not addicted in buying every new released CD, know the music on the the 2008 released albums, would it be possible to have a couple of RFW (I would suggest mainly in December and January) reserved for just music of 2008? (I think it is easy to program SAM this way)

And in fact I think it would also animate many of us to buy 2008 albums, as (this is for me) I really listened too little to these new albums.

What do rest rest of the community and management think about this?

progdirjim 10-15-2008 03:55 PM

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I like the idea but will defer to Vax and Dot as to how easy the programming of SAM is.

sharcnorris 10-15-2008 04:01 PM

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Not only do I think this is a good idea, but I have always endorsed more specific Timeslots programing to certain Categories. I think giving Samantha the go ahead and play only 2008 Music during any regular time period would be great. It might also encourage the purchase of these new Moontunes as well.....:flutter:

Rick and Roll 10-15-2008 06:37 PM

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Timely thread. On show 201 (about 2 and half weeks' time) I will be featuring a chunk of four new releases (see this week's show thread).

Lotus the idea man...

OverHillandDale 10-16-2008 10:37 AM

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Wow, Lotus! Great Minds. I was just thinking about starting a thread about the Moon O'Poll 2008 to try to get the ball rolling on that.

Now your idea of highlighting the new albums of the year is a great idea. Would that mean the whole of the albums would be played, or just the highlights from them? Either way, we're talking a whole bunch of music. If limited to one or two days a week for just a couple of hours, it would take months to get through all the new releases for 2008.

Here's a possible additional alternative (perhaps combining several approaches would reach all of the masses - since it is hard to get one time everyone can listen). How about we dedicate several Theme Thursdays to just 2008 releases. That way people could pick from material they had not heard. This would, of course, have to augmented with a posted list of 2008 releases so folks could explore.

Okay, that's my idea. Anything to get the new music out there is welcome. It's been a great year for new material. I'm looking forward to the poll.

Also, for what it's worth, if Wojtek is not up to running it this year, I hereby volunteer to do it.

Rick and Roll 10-16-2008 10:49 AM

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Originally Posted by OverHillandDale (Post 38246)

Now your idea of highlighting the new albums of the year is a great idea. Would that mean the whole of the albums would be played, or just the highlights from them?

Although I'm not certain that the risks to the artist outweigh the benefits, I've been asked not to play certain releases in their entirety. In the future, I will ask the artist directly if I want to air all of a release. Otherwise, we should leave that one alone.

Thanks, Dale, with yours, Lotus, and the Polish Prince's help, 2008 should be a fine show. :salute

VAXman 10-17-2008 08:46 AM

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Originally Posted by progdirjim (Post 38210)
I like the idea but will defer to Vax and Dot as to how easy the programming of SAM is.

As long as the year is added, and added properly, when Jim adds to the library, this should be easily doable.

Some time ago, I rewrote the "Playlist/Request" module to allow displaying a longer list of selections and I also added additional search criteria; specifically, year. A recent query tells me there are 1067 tracks marked 2008. You too, moonies, can do the same query using the "Playlist/Request" module. Select Year and enter 2008 in the search for box. Check it out. If there are things missing from the list displayed, now is the time to speak up and have it corrected. Post any errata here and Jim or I can amend the library.

MrMagoo 10-17-2008 12:18 PM

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Vax, could you do an artist/album query for 2008 and post it here?

lotus 10-17-2008 03:51 PM

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Originally Posted by OverHillandDale (Post 38246)
Now your idea of highlighting the new albums of the year is a great idea. Would that mean the whole of the albums would be played, or just the highlights from them?

I meant this thread as an idea starter (and it seems to work.. :)) Whatever management decides to do will be fine, but something should be done. Rick is already playing some new additions, but with a 2 hours show a week he can highlight the great ones (for mass audience), but the highlights of 2008 for the minority will not be considered...

So, Moonies, give the Moon all your ideas, and let us put pressure on management to decide what the Moon is going to do, as the end of the year is near..:). And in this case the worst decision is no decision..

(I hope you all understand what I mean..:D)

Greetings..

lotus 10-17-2008 04:11 PM

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Originally Posted by VAXman (Post 38268)
You too, moonies, can do the same query using the "Playlist/Request" module. Select Year and enter 2008 in the search for box. Check it out. If there are things missing from the list displayed, now is the time to speak up and have it corrected. Post any errata here and Jim or I can amend the library.

Vax just requested a Bodin song with this feature. It works perfect..But as you told already, there are so many new tunes of 2008..Many of unknown artists.hard to decide..

VAXman 10-17-2008 07:11 PM

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Originally Posted by MrMagoo (Post 38274)
Vax, could you do an artist/album query for 2008 and post it here?

As you have requested:

lotus 10-22-2008 05:09 PM

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I just want to keep the discussion alive..

Moonies, untill an organized and/or scheduled service is done, please request the 2008 albums..Weall want to have the maximum choice for our votes and we can have it only if we know the new releases..

VAXman 10-28-2008 08:39 AM

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Originally Posted by lotus (Post 38352)
I just want to keep the discussion alive..

Moonies, untill an organized and/or scheduled service is done, please request the 2008 albums..Weall want to have the maximum choice for our votes and we can have it only if we know the new releases..

Rick said he was going to do a 2008 show. My listing in a prior posting is all of the 2008 material on the moon. Rick should have no problem covering much of this in 3 hours.

Rick and Roll 10-28-2008 08:56 AM

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Originally Posted by VAXman (Post 38410)
Rick said he was going to do a 2008 show. My listing in a prior posting is all of the 2008 material on the moon. Rick should have no problem covering much of this in 3 hours.

I'm only covering five releases, and two are not yet on the playlist.

I never usually worry about what year music is released, just so happens that all of the music this week is from 2008. I should be able to do a couple of more shows before the end of the year, so maybe I can hit about 10 more.

KeithieW 10-28-2008 10:08 AM

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Rick,

How about doing a couple of shows where, rather than play all or most of one album, you play what you feel is the highlight and/or most representative track from that album. That way you will be able to air a lot more of the 2008 releases before voting gets going for the end of year poll.

Rick and Roll 10-28-2008 10:17 AM

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Originally Posted by KeithieW (Post 38412)
Rick,

How about doing a couple of shows where, rather than play all or most of one album, you play what you feel is the highlight and/or most representative track from that album. That way you will be able to air a lot more of the 2008 releases before voting gets going for the end of year poll.

I figure I'm familiar with only about 1/4 of what's out in any given year, and that may be generous. Yes, two songs from each will be good, but I will either pick randomly or take suggestions for the ones I do not know. plus i don't want to influence any voting.

Let's tentatively plan on the last week in Dec and the first in Jan for these shows. Capital idea, Keithie...

and I will also as usual air the results as a rebroadcast of the Wojtek show...

lotus 10-29-2008 05:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Rick and Roll (Post 38413)
I figure I'm familiar with only about 1/4 of what's out in any given year, and that may be generous. Yes, two songs from each will be good, but I will either pick randomly or take suggestions for the ones I do not know. plus i don't want to influence any voting.

Let's tentatively plan on the last week in Dec and the first in Jan for these shows. Capital idea, Keithie...

Rick, excellent idea from KW with the 2 songs from some albums (as with more than 1000 tunes, averaging 10 tunes an album, meaning 100 new albums, maybe you will have the opportunity to air samples from 20 albums in 2 shows (am I right?), so I think you could highlight the ones you like, and I agree with that: A show has to be personal and why not influence the vote, if the voters like your selection!!

But I still think, that in order to let us know more of the 2008 albums, why not have the RFW for some weeks dedicated to 2008 albums?

Rick and Roll 10-30-2008 07:14 AM

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Lotus, I'm sorry - I was saying the exact opposite of you about influence.

lotus 10-30-2008 01:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Rick and Roll (Post 38437)
Lotus, I'm sorry - I was saying the exact opposite of you about influence.

I know, Rick. (Sorry, my poor English). What I wanted to say is that selecting tunes from that mass you will always influence ppl in there vote, as they are going to know the tune you played, while they do not know many tunes you did not play. And this kind of influence (even if you make real propaganda for one Album) is ok for me.

Hope I did express myself now well..:)

OverHillandDale 10-30-2008 01:21 PM

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Originally Posted by lotus (Post 38444)
I know, Rick. (Sorry, my poor English). What I wanted to say is that selecting tunes from that mass you will always influence ppl in there vote, as they are going to know the tune you played, while they do not know many tunes you did not play. And this kind of influence (even if you make real propaganda for one Album) is ok for me.

Hope I did express myself now well..:)

So does that mean the Payola checks should go to Rick? :eek:

Or are you only taking cash this year? ]) :notsure:

Rick and Roll 10-30-2008 01:33 PM

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Originally Posted by lotus (Post 38444)
Hope I did express myself now well..:)

Got it!

Wojtek 11-04-2008 05:03 PM

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The idea of Rick playing 2008 albums is totally accpetable as Rick has right to play what he wants and also his show is known for presentation of new releases. But no doubt, it will influence the poll pretty much. This is why I'd say that RFW thing (if doable) would be superb addition to current situation. With Rick presenting some 2008 tunes it would be cool 2008 summary combo and random picks would make whole summary more neutral. If we could get both those ideas, that would be great.

And yes, I think about the poll. I think about some changes as in the last two years the community interest in the poll looked smaller and smaller. Not sure why: maybe excitement of a not anymore new show just was gone. Or maybe formula wasn't catchy. But the fact is I think of something that would bring those times of poll frenzy when so many people were really excited, made those stunning voice jingles and it was obvious that the poll boosted whole community spirit. So I still hesitate but I'll make my decision soon.

lotus 11-04-2008 06:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Wojtek (Post 38542)
The idea of Rick playing 2008 albums is totally accpetable as Rick has right to play what he wants and also his show is known for presentation of new releases. But no doubt, it will influence the poll pretty much. This is why I'd say that RFW thing (if doable) would be superb addition to current situation. With Rick presenting some 2008 tunes it would be cool 2008 summary combo and random picks would make whole summary more neutral. If we could get both those ideas, that would be great.

And yes, I think about the poll. I think about some changes as in the last two years the community interest in the poll looked smaller and smaller. Not sure why: maybe excitement of a not anymore new show just was gone. Or maybe formula wasn't catchy. But the fact is I think of something that would bring those times of poll frenzy when so many people were really excited, made those stunning voice jingles and it was obvious that the poll boosted whole community spirit. So I still hesitate but I'll make my decision soon.

Woj..You are alive.. This is so great!!! :) :)

Please, as the Moon O'Poll is nearing, please let us have asap your deadlines and your comments. I think, if you prefer some RFW with the 2008 releases, management will arrange it. Nevertheless I love the idea of Rick presenting his fav's of 2008 (and making an preselection for us all)..Let's convince Management to arrange both!

Woj. come in more frequent..

Rick and Roll 11-04-2008 08:43 PM

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I have the last show of 2008 and the first of 2009 earmarked for 2008 releases...mostly random, I'm not tipping my hand as to which I like...

Wojtek 11-10-2008 11:14 AM

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Ok briefly:

As usual we have two possibilities time-wise.
1) To go with show around New Year what means better atmosphere but problem of albums classification.
2) Show in Ferbruary with voting in January.

I'd prefer 1) (for example on Jan 3) but without endless debates on what should be considered as 2008 release ;) and then voting would have to end on Christmas.

Let me know what you think.

RogorMortis 11-10-2008 11:50 AM

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I don't mind either - but if you go for early Jan show then albums released in December must count for the year after as too few will have heard them. This means the format must then remain the same the year after to be fair.

lotus 11-10-2008 04:02 PM

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Originally Posted by RogorMortis (Post 38622)
I don't mind either - but if you go for early Jan show then albums released in December must count for the year after as too few will have heard them. This means the format must then remain the same the year after to be fair.

We had this discussion already last year. I personally would like a show between X-Mas and New Year, as we used to have it (the show was always part of the X-Mas holidays....), but I agree with Rogor. In order to be fair, we have to wait until February in order to consider the Dec releases.

Rogor, is the Upcoming Releases News accurate for 2008?. If not we should have a thread with the 2008 releases already now in the Forums with the remark of the one's requestable here on the Moon...But I think this is whishfull thinking as it is alot of work..:(

But the info about the Upcomming Releases being accurate would be helpful..

Wojtek 12-02-2008 08:36 AM

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Ok, my final suggestion is that we start with poll on 5th Dec and there will be 20 days for voting. So voting till Christmas and I suggest show on 3rd Jan.

Not sure about the list of 2008 releases, though. People still vote for albums out of the list so maybe a request to vote only for prog rock albums will be enough. But if there is an easy way to compile such list, then the list will apear as well.

Rick and Roll 12-02-2008 08:50 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Wojtek (Post 38864)
Ok, my final suggestion is that we start with poll on 5th Dec and there will be 20 days for voting. So voting till Christmas and I suggest show on 3rd Jan.

Not sure about the list of 2008 releases, though. People still vote for albums out of the list so maybe a request to vote only for prog rock albums will be enough. But if there is an easy way to compile such list, then the list will apear as well.

The Gagliarchives has already started the top 100. If I remember, on the website is a comprehensive list - to twist a phrase, "if it's not there, it's not anywhere" :vaxman:

This week I will play three full releases. I will also devote the Dec 21/22 show to 2008 releases. I was to do the following week but since voting will be closed it makes no sense.

So to summarize:

Someone please pull the Gags list for 2008 (copy and paste)?
I will play three full discs this week, and a song from as many as I can on the 12/21-22 show.
I'll block out the Jan 4 and 5 Rickter Scales for the replay.

Thank you Wojtek - look forward to having some of your music to be considered :)

OverHillandDale 12-02-2008 12:36 PM

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Sounds like a winner - let's do it! 8-q

KeithieW 12-02-2008 01:50 PM

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Agreed....let's do it!!!!

Rick and Roll 12-03-2008 06:51 AM

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I didn't see the choice list from the Gags site, but I'm sure an enterprising soul will come up with a list. Top 10 looks mighty solid this year.

Wojtek 12-03-2008 04:41 PM

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Rick, thanks for reserving your January shows for the replay.
Officially then: we're starting on Friday.

OverHillandDale 12-03-2008 10:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Rick and Roll (Post 38877)
I didn't see the choice list from the Gags site, but I'm sure an enterprising soul will come up with a list. Top 10 looks mighty solid this year.

Rick & Wojtek

I chatted with Tom G. today and he said he'd email the spreadsheet of their new album for 08 to me. That's the pre-poll list. Hopefully that can help us get the list together.

Rick and Roll 12-03-2008 10:22 PM

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Originally Posted by OverHillandDale (Post 38886)
Rick & Wojtek

I chatted with Tom G. today and he said he'd email the spreadsheet of their new album for 08 to me. That's the pre-poll list. Hopefully that can help us get the list together.


Excellent!!!

Wojtek 12-05-2008 11:35 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by OverHillandDale (Post 38886)
Rick & Wojtek

I chatted with Tom G. today and he said he'd email the spreadsheet of their new album for 08 to me. That's the pre-poll list. Hopefully that can help us get the list together.

That's great. If we can make use of this, could you email it to me (woj.tek@wp.pl)? Thanks.


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