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Old 08-25-2006, 06:16 AM
Methem Methem is offline
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Re: OT: Urban decay...

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Originally Posted by jtmckinley
Fact is, downtown Detroit doesn't have all that much to offer (compared to say Chicago where I used to live) IMHO.
Perhaps they've already demolished most of what's worth looking at in the city...

http://detroityes.com/index.html has some photo tours of the city. Click "Tour the ruins" to view them.

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I didn't grow up in the Detroit area though, so there may still be a lot that I'm not aware of in this area (it *is* MOTOWN after all, the birthplace of all those great R&B recordings, and there's still an active music scene, not prog that I'm aware of, but techno is the current claim to fame that I'm aware of),
Detroit is usually credited for being the place were "techno" was pretty much born, created by the guys like Juan Atkins and Derrick May. The city is also the home of Underground Resistance, aka UR, a more or less famous techno collective.

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but one feature of Detroit is the exodus of gainfully employed people away from the city Detroit over the years. The Detroit area has a series of "rings" as people migrated away from the city (I live in a 3rd ring suburb and live < 1 mile from where I work) and apparently many businesses also moved/built their headquarters outside the city. The end result is that Detroit proper is really struggling since there isn't a sufficient tax base to even provide proper essential services such as water and sewage treatment, or so I've heard. The 1st "ring" is also in trouble from what I've heard due to declining property values.

Actually, the whole area is having trouble right now with Ford and GM (the two largest employers IIRC) having major difficulties right now; many of my friends/colleagues have seen the values of their homes decrease even out in the third "ring". Fortunately I live in an old (circa 1950-1960) neighborhood that is still desirable, but even so, my property values have only gone up about 1% in my first year here and it is relatively expensive to buy a house out here in the third ring, not as bad as say Silicon Valley where some friends live, but about twice what it costs in the St. Louis, MO suburbs where I grew up.
Shrinking Cities has some information about that sort of development, very prevalent in post-industrial areas. It's a cultural project (with a somewhat confusing website):

http://www.shrinkingcities.com/index.php?L=1
http://www.shrinkingcities.com/standorte0.0.html?&L=1
http://www.shrinkingcities.com/kultu...en.0.html?&L=1

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As far as the building referenced above being destroyed, I've not heard anything about it, and although there is an effort to revitalize downtown Detroit, I doubt the city has the money to demolish the building, so maybe it's safe LOL. Of course if some developer comes along with some cash and wants that site I wouldn't be surprised to see them get it and what they'd do with it is anybody's guess, but it wouldn't surprise me if they razed it in order to build a mall or another casino or whatever, which would be a shame, but I don't have any additional information regarding it's fate, sorry...
Yep...

Thanks for the post: it's good to hear from someone who actually lives there.


-Methem

Last edited by Methem : 08-25-2006 at 06:21 AM.
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