Day-time re-airs?

[gmknobl]

As I've mentioned before, due to a number of circumstances, chiefly a three-year-old AND now a newborne, I usually can't get around to listening to The Planetarium live.

I'd love to hear this show during the day to calm me down, relax me and generally keep me from blowing somebody up inadvertantly

Is there any chance Aural Moon will start doing re-airs of Avian's show during the daytime hours once per week, perhaps starting with archived shows?

[Yesspaz]

First, there has to be some Platentarium shows...

[gmknobl]

Ugh! Avian given up on the show already?

I remember there was a hiatus once already. Is everything all right?

I'm sure that the Planetarium will return all in good time.

Patience is a virtue.

[Avian(Admin)]

Still on hiatus - sorry folks.

My old computer has given up the ghost - it's having problems, and I can't process audio with it. I'm working on getting a new one, and I hope the show will return with the new computer.

It will return!!

Davin

[RogorMortis]

Avian I like your wording - using the word computer and not perhaps a Pee Cee just to get Vax all worked up.

But perhaps it is an Apple that has conked out?

[Avian(Admin)]

Heh - no, it's a PC alright. It's five years old, and it's given up the ghost.

[progdirjim(Admin)]

Originally posted by Avian
Heh - no, it's a PC alright. It's five years old, and it's given up the ghost.

Did they even HAVE computers 5 years ago?

[gmknobl]

<shudder>

As a computer programmer and a student of computers since 1981 I have to freak when I hear this.

When I first got interested in computers, we huddled together over a teletype machine (sorta an early fax-type machine - the typing noise you use to hear in the background of news casts) and played a game with a remote computer. We tried to guess the winner of a fictional horse race and played tic-tac-toe (an ever popular example).

I was around 8 years old and the year was probably 1971.

That was somewhere near Washington, D.C. or perhaps College Park, MD.

Of course, even the supposedly advance Virginia Tech (VPI&SU) used punch cards until the early 80's when we switched entirely to a VAX machine from a Multics system, at least for teaching computer science students. Shortly afterwards we all noticed e-mail addresses got much easier to send, then the addresses shortened and we had the advent of the internet. Then came the World Wide Web with the Mosaic browser (which actually followed gopher systems and early ftps). That's a good general outline of things. There are missing details but they are just that, details.

It boggles the mind to see how much things have changed in such a relatively short time.

I think "Future Shock" is a real possibility; we probably already see its effects but we don't call it that. I wonder whether some of us will end up living in a Brunner predicted "Precipice"-like town. Maybe we already are.

[Roger -Dot- Lee(Admin)]

Originally posted by gmknobl
As I've mentioned before, due to a number of circumstances, chiefly a three-year-old AND now a newborne, I usually can't get around to listening to The Planetarium live.

Great Caesar's Ghost, man, with a three year old AND a newborn, I'm surprised you can actually find the time to function as a human, let alone engage in such frivolities as listening to music!

I'd love to hear this show during the day to calm me down, relax me and generally keep me from blowing somebody up inadvertantly

Oh my yes....I do much the same to keep from blowing things up, inadvertantly or otherwise.

Is there any chance Aural Moon will start doing re-airs of Avian's show during the daytime hours once per week, perhaps starting with archived shows? [/b][/quote]

Avian's answered this below, as you see.

Roger -Dot- Lee, just wanted to seize the chance to say "Great Caesar's Ghost!"

[gmknobl]

Originally posted by Roger Lee

Great Caesar's Ghost, man, with a three year old AND a newborn, I'm surprised you can actually find the time to function as a human, let alone engage in such frivolities as listening to music!

Thanks.

You, the publisher of The Daily Planet and Mr. Wilson are the only ones I've ever heard/read to say "Great Caesar's Ghost!"

[Avian(Admin)]

Great news!

I've started to build a new computer that I hope will be finished within a month. The Planetarium will return at the at point!

Thanks for keeping the faith!

Avian

[gmknobl]

Personally, I'd go with a small form factor, like something from Shuttle - http://us.shuttle.com/ - just for the desk space and potential quiet if you get fairly good one.

Next up would be something more complicated in a tower with liquid cooling so I wouldn't have fan noise.

SATA is a must now. And you might consider some form of RAID too.

I'm sure you'll have some issues but you'll have fun too!

[Avian(Admin)]

It started out as a mATX machine, but then quickly grew. It's now a DFI Ultra-D with an overlocked Athlon 64 3000+. Comin together slowly but surely.

Avian

[VAXman(Admin)]

Originally posted by gmknobl
Personally, I'd go with a small form factor, like something from Shuttle - http://us.shuttle.com/ - just for the desk space and potential quiet if you get fairly good one.

Next up would be something more complicated in a tower with liquid cooling so I wouldn't have fan noise.

SATA is a must now. And you might consider some form of RAID too.

I'm sure you'll have some issues but you'll have fun too!

SATA is still slow junk. It's behind current SCSI technologies in bandwidth and way behind fibre-channel and switched fabric technologies.

RAID It's a great bug spray.

There's nothing like having reduncancy but RAID is silly when the redundant partner is centimeters away. Save for the striping and consolidation features of RAID, it's really rather useless (save for those that sell this bill of goods).

[gmknobl]

What's wrong with the easily available SATA? Don't tell me you still want IDE/EIDE? Got something readily available that is faster and on most easily obtainable motherboards AND isn't SCSI (otherwise known as the devil's work)?

SCSI is just one big pain in the ARS. Boots too slow and size is a problem unless you want to spend mucho buckos. The only thing that makes it attractive is speed when moving very large files. Unless you do that a lot, you won't notice much if any funtional difference.

RAID is useful and easy to set up since it comes with many low cost, but not cheap, motherboards. However, if there is another automatic backup system, that doesn't require you to change tapes in and out, for instance, then I'd like to hear of it. (Really, I would! I want to put that into my next home-brew.) Of course, to be useful, it has to be something available on a Mac system (which I don't think he's building), unix, or windows. And yes, I know, windows sux.

What exactly is wrong with mirroring? It may not be a speedy thing but it gives you an instant replacement drive if the first fails. And with the cost of drives these days, it's easy to get a replacement. Just make sure you buy a popular and quality drive when you start.

[VAXman(Admin)]

Originally posted by gmknobl
What's wrong with the easily available SATA? Don't tell me you still want IDE/EIDE? Got something readily available that is faster and on most easily obtainable motherboards AND isn't SCSI (otherwise known as the devil's work)?

Yikes! IDE! What a complete brain<casual obscenity obscured>!!!

SCSI is just one big pain in the ARS. Boots too slow and size is a problem unless you want to spend mucho buckos. The only thing that makes it attractive is speed when moving very large files. Unless you do that a lot, you won't notice much if any funtional difference.

What is ARS? Maybe in the PeeCee world it boots slowly. That's because you are still crippled by that braindamaged BIOS mentality.

I have 15Krpm 320MB SCSI drives. I'll take them over your SATA 150Mb drives any day.

RAID is useful and easy to set up since it comes with many low cost, but not cheap, motherboards. However, if there is another automatic backup system, that doesn't require you to change tapes in and out, for instance, then I'd like to hear of it. (Really, I would! I want to put that into my next home-brew.) Of course, to be useful, it has to be something available on a Mac system (which I don't think he's building), unix, or windows. And yes, I know, windows sux.

Too many people don't.

What exactly is wrong with mirroring? It may not be a speedy thing but it gives you an instant replacement drive if the first fails. And with the cost of drives these days, it's easy to get a replacement. Just make sure you buy a popular and quality drive when you start.

For the purpose you have described, not much save for the fact that there is typically no redundancy to the RAID system. A real OS wouldn't been to rely on a separate and autonomous bit of hardware to do a relatvely simple task of cloning I/O requests. There isn't a single mirroring solution where you can pull one of the members from the set and install it in the system referencing it as a local/standalone drive (save for one OS...wonder what that might be). So when the RAID controller decides to abandon its ghost and head south, where does that leave your data? Personally, I prefer less hardware solutions. Hardware breaks. Why throw a slew of hardware at a problem that simple software can solve. Of course, if your OS can't do a real asynchronous I/O you're SOL and stuck with a hardware hack.

However, I am sick and tired of it being touted as a DR solution. You still have single point of failure. Read this link... pay attention to the section titled "State Of The Art".

http://www.computerworld.com/securit...1249p3,00.html

Anyway, this geekery is beyond the subject of this thread.

Respectfully, (VAX who ported VMS Host Based Volume Shadowing driver to Alpha circa '93 while M$ was still mucking with DOS)

[Rick and Roll]

It sure is easier just to enjoy the music.

I'm happy with my knives and bearskins system, and my antiquated stereo. Shit, if I can't make use of the equipment, what do I care? I finally bought a DVD player and bunch of DVD's and have watched a grand total of three.

I rarely turn my stereo up very loud at home, and I can't even use the scanner I got right.

Hell, I might as well kill myself. Oh yeah, after Rosfest.

[gmknobl]

I'll buy most of that. But since I think he is building what is essentially, a PC anyway, my advice still holds.

But yes, RnR, you have the right attitude. On trick you might try is what I've done, which is to get something to send your computer music stream to your stereo. That's easy if you have your antiquated computer next to your stereo - just plug the sound out into your stereo. But for me, mine isn't, so I got that apple thingy that receives the AM stream from my computer's iTunes program wirelessly. That thing is downstairs plugged into my stereo so I can enjoy my music on a good stereo system (compared to pc speakers).

We're here for the music. And I for one, can't wait to hear Avian's show again.

I'll post a side not on recording his show in another thread.

[Roger -Dot- Lee(Admin)]

Originally posted by VAXman
Yikes! IDE! What a complete brain<casual obscenity obscured>!!!

heh. I actually was able to convince a local company to toss their alleged 'High availability clustering solution' from Our Favorite Vendor by the simple expedient of pulling the drive on the central test server. After the windows admin required 12 hours to rebuild the cluster (the entire thing crashed) from the ground up, they listened to reason and installed something a little more robust.

Their windows consultant tried to say "yabbut you pulled the main DRIVE! You can't expect a cluster to survive that!" to which the head of IT said "we should be able to expect the cluster to survive a drive failure, no matter what the drive.

The windows consultant was heard cursing my name for weeks afterward. Not my problem.

http://www.computerworld.com/securit...1249p3,00.html

Funny about that. While I was working at HP, they moved their five node VMS cluster to four different datacenters: one in California, one in Georgia, one in Dublin, Ireland, and another in Tokyo, Japan.

While individual nodes suffered downtime (they're moving the hardware, ferchrissake), the cluster suffered ZERO downtime. My sources that are still there report that it hasn't suffered a second of downtime, in spite of the fact that it's spread out over three continents (on two planets, if you consider California...well, we don't need to go there, do we? )

I was impressed.

Anyway, this geekery is beyond the subject of this thread.

Like that's ever stopped us.

Respectfully, (VAX who ported VMS Host Based Volume Shadowing driver to Alpha circa '93 while M$ was still mucking with DOS)

Geh. I remember those dark days. That was about the time I was sitting at SGI, pondering how to make good my escape. God, that place was WAY too PC.

Roger -Dot- Lee, even the PC crowd thought so.