Pink Floyd Reunites!!!!

[kirk]

...this deserves a "wow!" IMO~

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertain...ic/4085484.stm

[Yesspaz]

I'm not a fan of some of the politics, (emphasis on some - not all), but Floyd getting together again! Oh, puhleez let them get the itch after playing this show and do a tour/album. I'd gladly part with some hard earned for that. Imagine, the first Full Four Memeber Floyd album since The Wall...

...goose bumps...

[kirk]

haha i hear you! i suspected that the ice was melting
from the cooperation levels on the recent "making of
DSOTM" (awesome btw, sorting the vocal snippets was
worth the price alone).

i still own the rolling stone announcing the breakup,
seperate interviews taking shots.....
i honestly doubted that we'd ever see this.

!!

k


"you give 'em a short, sharp, shock...and they won't be
doing it again, dig it?"

[Rick and Roll]

but an album? It's 50/50 in my opinion if it'd be any good.

[kirk]

i don't know...roger's vision and david's musicianship is a pretty potent combination...i'd really like to see them go out on a big note.
division bell makes a terrible swansong for such a
great band IMO.


k

[Rick and Roll]

Originally posted by kirk
i don't know...roger's vision and david's musicianship is a pretty potent combination...i'd really like to see them go out on a big note.
division bell makes a terrible swansong for such a
great band IMO.


k

agreed...and I'm just not a "wall" fan. But who am I to deny that combination? Always worth a try.

Speaking as someone who was at the London Planetarium when Pink Floyd premiered DSOTM I can only hope that the band will be a bit more animated than the cardboard cut outs they had then over a contractual problem.

I reckon it will be a great event and could attract a lot more Text Message applications for the ticket lottery. This could end up raising a hell of a lot more money for Africa than a rumoured Spice Girls reunion

[Yesspaz]

Originally posted by kirk
division bell makes a terrible swansong for such a
great band IMO.

Terrible swan song in terms of it not being the full Pink Floyd, but a terrible album? No way. Let the flames begin, but Division Bell is one of the six best Floyd albums, with WYWH, Animals, Dark Side, The Wall, and Meddle.

[teermin8r]

The Division Bell is my favorite Pink Floyd album, and I have 'em all (studio anyway, some live).

[progdirjim(Admin)]

Let's not start an endless debate over which Floyd album is the best, worst, and 3rd from the bottom. Though Division Bell is pretty weak

Seriously, though, from my perspective, Roger Waters' angst just continued to grow exponentially from Animals on, and I personally got really tired of it. While there are certainly good moments on later albums, to me there's little excitement about a new 4 member Floyd album. BUT, I'd love to be proven wrong. When the 4 of them clicked, they put out some of the best music ever.

[Rick and Roll]

Originally posted by progdirjim
Let's not start an endless debate over which Floyd album is the best, worst, and 3rd from the bottom. Though Division Bell is pretty weak

Seriously, though, from my perspective, Roger Waters' angst just continued to grow exponentially from Animals on, and I personally got really tired of it. While there are certainly good moments on later albums, to me there's little excitement about a new 4 member Floyd album. BUT, I'd love to be proven wrong. When the 4 of them clicked, they put out some of the best music ever.

The points about the little excitement and the Division Bell are exactly my thoughts...I just sugar coated them.

I'm just not crazy about reunions.

No debate? Damn I was going to talk about Nick Mason...haha Jim

[kirk]

yeah, "best" is subjective, a matter of perspective.
i admire their body of work for different reasons.
i'll give a shout to meddle for it's simplicity while being
very intense in spots ("echoes" is one of my favorite PF tunes).
it showed what could be accomplished w/ the basic rock instruments of the day.

it's difficult to explain to someone that wasn't around at the time
the culture that floyd themselves were a part of, what the music was designed to do...
which was to enhance...ummm....
the "experiences of the day". they knew this, and played to it.


agree w/ jim, roger was sounding a bit whiny after animals..
although The Wall is still the biggest selling double album
of all time. ask if a person knows "comfortably numb", then ask
if they know what "progressive rock" is.
it's one of the few times prog crossed into the mainstream.

[kirk]

a (very tense) update!

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/printFr...653850,00.html

[Methem]

So what are the feelings about the yesterday's performance? Anything special...?

-Methem

[ONOFFON]

Originally posted by Methem
So what are the feelings about the yesterday's performance? Anything special...?

-Methem

I thought it was pretty darn cool...

Gilmour cut the solo in Breathe rather abruptly and Waters voice isn't what it used to be, but those were my only negative observations. Gilmour's voice was great. I loved the response the crowd gave them. I also noticed they got more screen time than any other act, airing three full songs and most of a fourth.

Now, what happens for the future?

[ONOFFON]

Oh... and just for the record...

I have been a Floyd fan since I was 13, when I bought my British pressing, 1968 release of "A Saucerful of Secrets".

I had five Pink Floyd albums in my collection before Dark Side of the Moon was conceived.

I saw them perform at the Hollywood Bowl - they played DSOTM in its entirety, intermission, then played Echoes, and then encored with Careful With That Axe, Eugene.

Those Were The Days...

[kirk]

i've heard from a member on another list that viewed the
concert, and he reported "not a dry eye in the house".

i have to admit to a certain bittersweet feeling.

i'd love to see them have another go at it, but only
if they approach it the same way they did originally,
in the spirit of experimentation.
IMO, they need to be on the cutting edge
of today's technology.

i just think it'd hurt their memory to release a
big "corporate" cd. the "roger needs the bucks" tour '05
or worse, do a "greatest hits" tour, becoming a nostalgia act.
mind you, i'd still wait in line for hours for tickets.

if anything, IMO that's what has taken post-waters floyd
down a notch to us purists. it's become a huge machine
that the remaining members have to protect for their
livelyhoods. they're having to keep mindful of history and
the established fanbase, not painting too far outside the lines,
or slowing sales of the back catalog.
i've seen the band that was on the marquee as "pink floyd"
twice, the animals tour, and the division bell.
i'm not 100% sure i want to count TDB. there were 17 people
on the stage!

k

[Rick and Roll]

I like to equate this discussion to sports because of the parallels. A big ballyhoo in the sporting world is telling an athlete when he or she should retire. I understand it is sad when we see an athlete fade that was once so great, but we only have to do one thing:

Don't watch.

I know that it sounds simple, and impossible, but it's the only way. Who are we to tell someone when to stop? Just simply turn your attention to something else.

Also, it will enhance the enjoyment of today's stars. I am a big sports fan, and know far more than I should about a lot of things in sport (in high school I seamlessly went from the "jock" to "head" crowd...consult your 70's dictionary ).

I watched Roger Federer dismantle his opponent today on TV at Wimbledon. I have learned to appreciate the beauty and grace of an incredible performance, and not to be stuck in the past. It's hard not to fall into the trap of "nothing can match such and such" so everything else is 2nd rate. That thinking would inhibit me from appreciating today's competitors.

Now back to music - Jethro Tull and Rush are my favorite bands. Tull is not nearly the band they were in their prime. I used to get pissed off when they changed their set lists and would play stuff like "Budapest"....I think that tune's bloated, yet they play it every concert. But it's better to enjoy the other stuff and take a pee break or watch the women (oh yeah it's a Tull concert, sorry) than stew over it. And it's the artists right to play what they want. There's already enough audience pressure, because they play Aqualung and Locomotive Breath every fucking time. Like Rush with Tom Sawyer. I'd be happy never to hear that again.

Rush was difficult to reconcile for me in the 80's. They would play most of whatever record was released on the tour. That in itself was OK, but they would combine older songs. Xanadu and Superconductor sould NEVER be even played near each other, yet Rush would put them in a MEDLEY. That used to royally piss me off. Combined with the fact that the late 80's early 90's Rush period was not as good as the earlier stuff, it was hard for awhile. But now they get it. It's always better to go with it and enjoy as much as you can.

I guess I never canonized an artist. Awed, astounded, moved..yes they're words that apply. But lionized, put on a pedestal..no way.

I look at concerts like Floyd did as what they are, not any presursor of future projects nor a great epiphany. I only saw Floyd on the Division Bell tour, and I agree with Kirk. It was Floyd, but only seemed like them when they played the more recent material.

I saw my first show in 1977, so I missed what I consider the greatest peiod in rock history 1970-1975. Even though I never saw Gentle Giant, I would not be interested in seeing them reform, even if possible. But if they did, and I see them, I would enjoy it for what it is.

At Nearfest, Nektar, Camel, Caravan, Happy the Man, etc. all re-formed and played shows. They all were outstanding, mainly because they played what they could and wanted. Getting upset that Camel played a lot of "newer" material just isn't worth it.

This year IQ is playing (again). They record, but don't spend much time together physicially. I'd be very interested how this will work. I hope they stretch out and do some different things, make it seem like a band playing a show, not a "let's play the hits" thing (a prog band with "hits"...sorry that is a weird concept!)

So I agree the most effective and enjoyable way if Floyd went forward would be to experiment and be fresh. But if it's the reverse, well that's their preogative. I don't have to buy it, I have a choice.

[VAXman(Admin)]

Originally posted by ONOFFON
Oh... and just for the record...

I have been a Floyd fan since I was 13, when I bought my British pressing, 1968 release of "A Saucerful of Secrets".

I had five Pink Floyd albums in my collection before Dark Side of the Moon was conceived.

I saw them perform at the Hollywood Bowl - they played DSOTM in its entirety, intermission, then played Echoes, and then encored with Careful With That Axe, Eugene.

Those Were The Days...

Oh yeah! I saw DSotM at RFK with a friend and his brother (who drove the whole way there, took in the show, and drove all the way home in a chemically altered state).

Saw WYWH, Animals, and lucky enough to see The Wall (and I have the piccies too). I didn't see PF again until front row center at Giant Stadium. The show was OK (too many pyrotechs though for a front row sitter).

The best PF (after Syd) was when they were at their experimental peak. Atom Heart Mother, Ummagumma and Echoes. The Wall.... yawn...

[kirk]

The best PF (after Syd) was when they were at their experimental peak. Atom Heart Mother, Ummagumma and Echoes. [/b]

amen, brother vaxman!

i purchased the remastered ummagumma last year,
it's worth every cent.

btw von- my dad's name was eugene... that song
freaked me out a bit !

k