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Old 09-08-2003, 10:22 AM
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I know I'm gonna get killed

Okay, I'm sitting through Images and Words on Extended Play today...

...and I know I'm gonna get creamed for this...

...but I just can't help but think that the huge majority of this album is just crap. A total waste of music. It just all sounds the same to me.. every song is on a road to nowhere... The vocals sound like high pitched whining.

Sorry, folks - had to get that on my chest. Dream Theater and I just don't get along.

/flame on

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Old 09-08-2003, 12:29 PM
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You don't have to like everything....

Dream Theater????? Not bad but not great.

I wouldn't run screaming out of the room if someone played them but wouldn't go out of my way to hear them either.

Are we going to get into the fifth or is it sixth DT yes/no discussion??

Arrrrrgh!!!!!!!!!
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Old 09-08-2003, 01:47 PM
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Re: You don't have to like everything....

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Are we going to get into the fifth or is it sixth DT yes/no discussion??

Arrrrrgh!!!!!!!!!
there's nothing to discuss - the General Manager says no to DT, the Program Director says no. End of discussion.


POWER! HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!
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Old 09-08-2003, 02:03 PM
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A dozen HA's

that should do it, Jim!

It's funny about vocals. I couldn't do IQ for a long time because of the first (and returning) vocalist. Some people feel that way about Giant (not me, I love that British style).

The "Metropolis" tune is a killer. Try to listen to that one for the hell of it (not to include it on the playlist). There are several other songs throughout their tenure that's probably AM worthy, but it's only one band. Screw it.

Instrumentally, I think they are TOO complicated. The spinoff bands (LTE, for instance) - same way. I have both Transatlantics, but the more I listen, the less I'm interested.

Must be that overblown New York state of mind.
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Old 09-08-2003, 02:11 PM
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Actually, I don't hate DT as much as Avian, but I certainly don't like them enough to add much (if any) of their stuff. I heard part of one song awhile back (I forget which one, an instrumental I think) that I would add, but I don't own it and don't care enough to track it down. But most of their stuff doesn't strike me as prog - some nice instrumental breaks sprinkled into fairly straight ahead metal.

I do actually like LTE, though I don't play it often - have to be in the right mood. Transatlantic is much the same as Spock's Beard to me, in that I can listen to any one song, but after that it all feels pretty much the same. It's basically a pop song feel/structure with instrumental showing off - not a lot of sustained interest.
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Old 09-08-2003, 02:13 PM
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Looking for the bait....

didn't find it! Well said Jim. A red-letter day - agreed with everything you said (although I own 5 DT CD's).
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Old 09-08-2003, 02:35 PM
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Re: I know I'm gonna get killed

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Okay, I'm sitting through Images and Words on Extended Play today...

...and I know I'm gonna get creamed for this...

...but I just can't help but think that the huge majority of this album is just crap. A total waste of music. It just all sounds the same to me.. every song is on a road to nowhere... The vocals sound like high pitched whining.

Sorry, folks - had to get that on my chest. Dream Theater and I just don't get along.

/flame on

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To quote the great Weird Al, "Everything you know is wrong". Yes, it's very disturbing but true all the same.

Understandably, I don't consider all of I&W to be prog, but someone mentioned it and I thought people would enjoy it. Hell, if Gnosis has punk then I can have hair-metal ballads with my rush-like metal

Anyway, like I told both you and Jim some time ago. I'm more than willing to compile the DT songs to go on the station. It's not a huge list, but I think it has just as much of a place here as the classical music.

Actually, I'll post the list here after I compile it. I pity the fool that don't love some Dream Theater.

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Old 09-08-2003, 03:08 PM
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Oh, don't get me wrong - I fully support it being on EP... I don't like it but some folks may. But it will never be a mainstay of our playlist like it is on other prog radio stations.

Thassall!

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Old 09-08-2003, 03:19 PM
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Now there's a good a idea

Yeah, post the "EP approved" tunes.

this should be interesting....
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Old 09-08-2003, 03:23 PM
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Oh, don't get me wrong - I fully support it being on EP... I don't like it but some folks may. But it will never be a mainstay of our playlist like it is on other prog radio stations.

Thassall!

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I agree with you again there, but I think overall we're talking about 5-10 songs, hardly the mainstay.

Aural Moon is definitely unique for its playlist in our genre and that makes me very proud to be a part of the team. However, making it an all or none decision is a bit much. Overall, it is still the decision of Jim and Avian, but I'm a very interested and vocal party

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Eve
Space Dye Vest
Erotomania
Learning To Live
The Dance of Eternity
Strange Deja Vu
Ytsejam
Metropolis
A Change of Seasons
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Old 09-08-2003, 03:44 PM
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DT

Aaaarrrrrrggggghhhhhh!!!!!!
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Old 09-08-2003, 04:01 PM
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Solid

There are are others that I'm sure would classify as "personal favorites", but that's a very good list!!!
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Old 09-08-2003, 04:06 PM
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Dance Of Eternity was the one I heard and liked.

(RnR: There was no bait in my earlier post re: DT, LTE, Transatlantic and Spock's Beard. Just my honest opinions.)
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Old 09-08-2003, 04:09 PM
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I know

I'm just being a smart-ass.

I'm waiting for "Lines In The Sand" to be forwarded by Yeaspaz, 'cause Doug Pinnick of King's X is on vocals.

More incest!
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Old 09-08-2003, 04:12 PM
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We're all waiting for Yesspaz!!

I'm sure he'll have a few comments on this thread

Hope he and his leg are doing OK.
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Old 09-08-2003, 04:18 PM
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Dance Of Eternity was the one I heard and liked.

(RnR: There was no bait in my earlier post re: DT, LTE, Transatlantic and Spock's Beard. Just my honest opinions.)
Although I doubt that it would happen, if you somehow decided to add a few songs, I just might have access to the albums . . . just maybe.

No bait construed, I'm just defensive about my music, because I know that I'm always right.

And yes, that was sarcasm.

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Old 09-09-2003, 10:04 AM
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Question Huh?

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I'm waiting for "Lines In The Sand" to be forwarded by Yeaspaz, 'cause Doug Pinnick of King's X is on vocals.
What in the world does this mean?
And it's "LIES in the Sand"


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You mean the intermixing of prog people?
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Old 09-09-2003, 10:07 AM
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Re: Huh?

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What in the world does this mean?
And it's "LIES in the Sand"
Nope, that makes even less sense.

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Old 09-09-2003, 10:11 AM
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Oh, I was thinking...

Oh, I was thinking of this...

It Does Make Sense, DagNabbit!


And I was even more confused because Ty sings on "Lies in the Sand."
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Old 09-09-2003, 12:34 PM
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OK, you all straight now?

Let's see - why would I make a big deal about a King's X song that one of their own members sings on? This is a Dream Theater post. And, it's a fairly cool tune.

Oh, and that "Similar or related artists" feature that's shown when you click the link just made me lose my lunch.

Of course I mean the intermixing (is that a word?) of prog people.
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