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Old 06-24-2003, 11:01 AM
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Max Webster!

This is the second time that you have mentioned Max Webster, Howard. What an underrated band!!! I also grew up listening to Rush and Max Webster followed by Yes and Marillion. Now thanks to AM I listen and enjoy everything prog, from Renaissance to Godspeed You Black Emperor.

Going back to Max Webster, I don't think that all their stuff is fit for prog but some of the earlier, like In Context of the Moon, would definately fit the quirky type like what Frank Zappa offers.

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Old 06-25-2003, 06:55 AM
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might as well go for a soda....

oh that's Kim Mitchell solo.....

I consider Max Webster to your area as Crack The Sky is to us Marylanders.

I never did hear much of their stuff, save for the tune with Rush. Do you have suggestions about what to get, and how to get it?
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Old 06-25-2003, 07:09 AM
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Not Kim Mitchell

Although Kim Mitchell was the front man for Max Webster, please don't judge Max by his solo efforts which, unfortunately, received more airplay.

The first 3 albums are probably the most interesting: Max Webster (self-titled debut), High Class in Borrowed Shoes, and Mutiny Up My Sleeve. As individual tracks you can check out Oh War!, In Context of the Moon, Beyond the Moon, The Party, Toronto Tontos, and Coming Off the Moon. Howard can give his own opinions. I don't know where you can get them but maybe Kazaa or something similar may have something. Good luck!
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Old 06-25-2003, 07:16 AM
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thanks!

Amazon may have some - I'll try at some point.

Thanks!
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Old 06-25-2003, 07:18 AM
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Hello,

Yes, the Kim Mitchell solo stuff is also very good.

It's hard to say which Max Webster Album is more suited for prog.I have always felt that they were all over the place style wise, very hard to place them in any one catagory. I have a bootleg video of the band in Barrie, Canada on the Universal Juveniles tour that just blows me away!

Universal Juveniles is actually the first album I bought after seeing them with Rush,featuring the famous duet,"Battlescar" I then went back and collected their entire catalog. They were just one of those bands that struck me as musically entertaining and humorus at the same time.I know that Kim kind of put the blame of "Being in the shadow of Rush all the time" as a reason for the bands demise, but that's a typical label/management decision.

Their is a compilation disc out there called "The best of Max Webster featuring Kim Mitchell" which is pretty decent, it tends to contain the more Radio friendly tunes, not that any of their songs were crafted for that purpose, but it might be as close to a greatest hits that Max ever had.Most of this stuff can be found on Ebay or Amazon.com

..Did I mention that Starcastle will have a new CD this year!

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Old 06-26-2003, 10:54 AM
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I tried to keep quiet but.....

My Prog rock roots lie in my father playing music to me from a VERY early age. We used to have sunday lunch then retire to the living room and he would play albums for a couple of hours in between cat naps. He introduced me to Classical music, Jazz, Easy listening everything except Rock and roll. He hated "pop" with a vengence and as I grew into the rebellious little git that I was to become I started listening to more and more, what I thought, outrageous stuff. It got to the stage where when I got my first record player (a fidelity unit that blasted out all of 10 watts) and would play The Doors or Yes or Genesis while sitting on top of my wardrobe, a voice would bellow "TURN THAT BLOODY DOPE SMOKING MUSIC DOWN.....NOW!!!!!"

Obviously the classical music that I loved (and still love) moved me towards the more melodic music that Prog offered. I liked experimentation (in all things) and again the concept albums that were in abundance in the 70s were a perfect vehicle for my ever expanding taste.

Now that I'm 47 going on 16 none of that enthusiasm has died and I still look out for new bands and albums.......thank you AM.

However, even though the new bands I've discovered through AM are good they will never recapture those moments of the 70s of watching Yes, Focus, Genesis, Tull, Camel..........etc. perform their magnum opuses (opi??) for the first time.

What beautiful moments in my life they were.
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Re: I tried to keep quiet but.....

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My Prog rock roots lie in my father playing music to me from a VERY early age. <snip>
I'll use KeithieWs response to start my post for 3 reasons, first because the quoted text applies directly to me, second, because we're both the same age, and third because I also had a puny 10W p-h-o-n-o-g-r-a-p-h. For those too young to remember, these archaic machines played large black plastic vinyl discs that spun around and reproduced music via a fine needle riding in grooves.

And so even though I grew up listening to mostly italian 60s pop because of my father, prog was the first music all mine that I adopted in a conspiracy with my friends of the day back in late 1974 when I lived in Ostia. Sure I had seen Dark Side of the Moon be number one on the hit parade for a few years, but that really didn't mean anything to me at all until our little clique decided PFM was cool and bought their records, Live in USA being my first and still have that album. So we would spend time playing these records, Floyd's Ummagumma, and Deep Purple's Live in Japan and Burn.

When I returned back to the states in 1975, I continued my like of both prog and hard rock. For the former (won't bother you with the latter), I got Chocolate Kings when that came out, added albums like Trick of the Tail (one of my absolute all time favorite albums), Wish You Were Here, Animals, Wind and Wuthering, ELP's Works vol 1, and several others.

As things evolved and my perception that prog had all but died in the 80s and 90s, I now find I am once again listening to prog now almost exclusively on iPod, and AM of course.

As for why bands like Yes and Jethro Tull aren't mentioned, all I can say is that while I like them, I'm thinking I was overdosed by them on stations in NY like PLJ and NEW that played their "hit" songs over and over to the point I had had enough. I have since repented...

I have to also say that it helps when your favorite band releases a new album and it's considered cool. In case you don't know, I absolutely love Stati Di Immaginazione.

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Old 06-26-2003, 12:38 PM
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what no skiffle?

just kidding.

I don't think I could handle being a teenager in the early 70's (I just missed).
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Old 06-26-2003, 12:50 PM
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just kidding.

I don't think I could handle being a teenager in the early 70's (I just missed).
Don't laugh man....I did go and see Lonnie Donegan when he was in his skiffling prime. I loved his song "The Battle of New Orleans" and I still have it on my JukeBox here at home.
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Old 06-26-2003, 01:00 PM
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very cool to hear a local perspective on British music -

is this a Jukebox in the traditional sense? tell me more!
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Old 06-26-2003, 01:19 PM
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Juke Box

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is this a Jukebox in the traditional sense? tell me more!
It's a NSM Satellite 200. One of the first "electronic" Jukes to be made.

I takes 100 7" singles and has a primitive sound/light display.

I bought it because I have a collection of over 600 singles and as my deck isn't one of the old multi-play "record bashers" it seemed like the best option. I change the records every month or so.

I really wanted a Wurlitzer but the cost was prohibitive. Even so, I still love the machine I've got and would never part with it.

Just playing 252 "The Zombies" - 'She's not there'.

Well no-one told me about her, the way she lied.
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Old 06-26-2003, 01:27 PM
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Neat!

Mr. Rod Argent, huh?

Hold your head high!
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Old 06-26-2003, 01:33 PM
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Neat!

Mr. Rod Argent, huh?

Hold your head high!
That's a good point Rick........

Hey Jim, how about some Argent for the Playlist?

I know there's a bit of Solo rod Argent but the bands Live album "Encore" is worth a play or two.
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Old 07-01-2003, 11:24 AM
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Argent - as always, we'll consider it. Haven't listened to the classic era Argent in a LONG time....
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Re: What are your Progressive Rock Roots?

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Argent - as always, we'll consider it. Haven't listened to the classic era Argent in a LONG time....
ARGENT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!......needs to be on the Moon!
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Old 07-13-2003, 12:40 PM
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A Birth Control reference!

So good to hear, even though you make me feel old.
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Re: What are your Progressive Rock Roots?

(Another old, obviously interesting thread.)
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Old 08-26-2006, 10:16 AM
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Re: What are your Progressive Rock Roots?

My general musical story is pretty much as follows...

The first musical experiences I can remember are probably from the early 1980s or from the mid-1980s. I was a child then, under 10 years old. My father used to have an old Beatles LP, perhaps some collection. I remember liking it. He also listened early Santana (especially Abraxas), and I liked that too. Later, still as a rather small kid, I remember liking Weather Report as well: "Birdland", probably "Teentown", etc.

In the 1980s, I often spent time listening to audio cassettes that my father had recorded from various Finnish radio shows. He sometimes just recorded shows without obviously paying much attention to whether the content was worth recording. So I got to listen to a mix of pop, rock, disco, and all sort of other stuff. I remember liking some of that pop stuff, some of the disco, but also some of the more sophisticated music that had somehow managed to slip in to those recordings. I now know that I have liked, for example, Styx's "Come Sail Away" and Klaatu's "Calling Occupants..." for many years, but it wasn't until I discovered the Moon that I got to know who the artists actually performing those songs are.

In the early 1990s, as a teenager, I discovered eletronic dance music. I used to listen to it from radio. Eurodance (eek), some breakbeatish stuff like Prodigy, house music, a little bit of rap, and so on. A lot of that music was/is pretty cheap and cheesy, but something in it fascinated me anyway. At the same time, many of my schoolmates were usually into Metallica and other thrash metal bands.

In the mid-1990s, while still somewhat into that dancey stuff and obviously rap, I got again a bit more interested in the old rock. Saw Tull's Living In The Past somewhere and bought it. The music felt a bit odd, but I certainly liked it, back then (these days I don't seem to be so excited about the band). Other artists I can remember bying (even if it was just one CD per group) include Procol Harum, Fleetwood Mac, Jimi, Kinks (is that really rock? obviously), and so on. Also bought some Woodstock collection. A few years later, I bought something by Airplane and Steppenwolf, and so on.

In the late 1996 (pretty late, yep), I started listening to Black Sabbath. They, the original 1970s band, are probably the band I've listened the most ever in my life. Sabbath paved the way to my modest trip to more metallic side of music: Bought some Anathema, Paradise Lost, My Dying Bride; all originally classified as "doom metal" bands, methinks. Bought a couple of Metallicas, something by Manowar , Blind Guardian, even one Norwegian album that I believe was some sort of black metal. And so on.

In 2000 I more or less drifted back to dance music. Soon discovered goatrance/psytrance, which is psychedelic eletronic dance "music", often with ethnic influence. Astral Projection is one of the most well-known groups making that sort of stuff. I also believe Eat Static is often classified as a psytrance group, among others...?

In the late 1990s or 2000, around those times, I also started to get a little bit more interested in world music and folkish stuff, I think. Transglobal Underground's Yes Boss Food Corner (funky name) was probably my first album in that area...

Then, a bit over couple of years ago I discovered the Moon. As someone who had an idea about what prog. rock is but who obviously hadn't seriously explored the, hmmm, phenomena before, I took this place as an opportunity to learn more about the music. And since then I've discovered many interesting bands completely new to me and bought several nice albums. However, to be honest, not everything I've heard here has fascinated me. I must admit that I'm one of those oddies who doesn't care too much about Genesis or King Crimson...


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Re: What are your Progressive Rock Roots?

My Progressive Rock Roots?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!

Well, I was a child of the 70's....listening to Kiss and Alice Cooper. I loved popular music.

Then an older kid (a teenager) in my neighborhood turned me onto Kansas' Masque, King Crimson's Larks Tongues, and Soft Machine Third. I was instantly warped and twisted. I bought every album I could by Yes, Emerson Lake & Palmer, Camel, Wyatt, Genesis, Magma, Gong, Caravan.....it just became an obsession. And the obsession still grows.

I've been listening to this site for 3 years and only recently decieded to post in the forums and join! Hotcha indeeeeed.....
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Old 08-26-2006, 03:14 PM
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I've been listening to this site for 3 years and only recently decieded to post in the forums and join! Hotcha indeeeeed.....

Now that explains who the other listeners are.....nice to see you here..
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