Aural Moon unlistenable

[lotus]

Originally Posted by sharcnorris

Sun Ra, GYBE, are few examples of the reason this thread is here. Noise is not music and to waste airtime on the Long efforts of these types of "artists" drives fans away. This is not a new position from me. Hey guess what, Sometimes it is unlistenable.
Now I need a thread about how great the Moon is, That I could write a book about. Im greatly dissapointed when a 20 min. noise piece comes up. Its because the Moon has so many jewels not playing then

Basically I agree with Sharc, but "progressive rock" has never been defined officially, there are on the different wikis the different definitions, being one not alike the other.

I support Jim's politic to have a wide range of what is prog, leaving space for New Age, Jazz, "Noise" etc..This opens the horizont to all AM listeners, so that we can qualify personally the tunes from "Must Have" to "unlistenable".

Due to many new additions, which are within this wide range and they got played by SAM and requested more frequently (we want to hear new things), in the last time we sometimes have one 30 min "noise" tune after the other (please understand this as my personal and private ranking) and not one Genesis followed by a PF and then by Supertramp.

So, I personally give a sh*t on that post. I think we know what we have here on the Moon: The classics and really new stuff, which we like or not. And we have here the ppl online to discuss the music in shout, which is the salt in the soup!!

[gr8sho92]

Although I haven't had time to join in Shout recently, I have AM playing in the background every day. I really dig Jim's record collection.

[Bmithra]

Originally Posted by gr8sho92

Although I haven't had time to join in Shout recently, I have AM playing in the background every day. I really dig Jim's record collection.

I agree with you gr8sho92. Jim must have one of the best record collections on the planet.

Bmithra

[NorCalKurt]

Originally Posted by VAXman

This is the kind of press you've just got to love reading... NOT!

From:   x77777x@gmail.com
Subject: [PMS] Aural Moon unlistenable
Date: August 1, 2008 11:23:32 PM EDT
To:   progressivemusicsociety@yahoogroups.com
Reply-To:   progressivemusicsociety@yahoogroups.com

Seems that Aural Moon has decided (more so than usual) to 
play mostly unlistenable noise instead of legitimate progressive rock.

Since I spend more time muting them and waiting for something 
decent than actual listening, they are a waste of effort.

Is there an internet station that devotes itself to serious and 
legitimate prog, and leaves the musical detritus out of the mix?

I know I'm gonna get flamed by Aural Moon fans, but that's ok.

Consider yourself FLAMED, yahoo groupie.

[RogorMortis]

I did a search on the mail x77777x@gmail.com and I found just one result on some technical page with the user name Homer Simpson. The text there did not fit any possible ex French member

[gagliarchives]

Sounds more like jealousy to me. Aural Moon kicks fuckin ass.

[woodchuckvt]

Alas, it would appear that AM is unlistenable. Given Jim's drive to 30,000 songs a little math will highlight the problem. Assuming the average listener (whomever that may be) can accommodate one new song a day, on average, then we have 82 years of music to listen to. Assuming Jim's collection habits follow a lower order Moore's law, we, the AM listeners, are in deep yogurt unless we devote more listening time to AM and request new to us tunes with increasing frequency. If the universe of music defined as prog rock continues to expand as well, then AM is indeed unlistenable.

[Andyyyy]

Originally Posted by woodchuckvt

Alas, it would appear that AM is unlistenable. Given Jim's drive to 30,000 songs a little math will highlight the problem. Assuming the average listener (whomever that may be) can accommodate one new song a day, on average, then we have 82 years of music to listen to. Assuming Jim's collection habits follow a lower order Moore's law, we, the AM listeners, are in deep yogurt unless we devote more listening time to AM and request new to us tunes with increasing frequency. If the universe of music defined as prog rock continues to expand as well, then AM is indeed unlistenable.

And with these numbers, it's probably inevitable that people will not like ALL that it played- one person's noise will be another's serenade. But I love a LOT of what is played here, so here I'll stay

Request Free Wednesday is indeed a Godsend.

[podakayne]

at the risk of shocking you all with a very poddy mouth...

who cares, we dont like him/her, we dont need him/her, we know what WE like and we support it. if the moon isn't coming into the standards (and i use that word loosely in regards to the post) he/she is expecting then "carry your sorry arse on to some other station that does" and we will all be the better for it.

we all have songs we consider noise that reside here but it is not enough to keep us away...well stated andy

and that's my 2cents.

thank you

frak 'em!

[mailotron]

[quote=podakayne;36699]at the risk of shocking you all with a very poddy mouth...

... a very Poda mouth .... .

[VAXman(Admin)]

Originally Posted by podakayne

at the risk of shocking you all with a very poddy mouth...

Pea pods? Bean pods?

Originally Posted by podakayne

who cares, we dont like him/her, we dont need him/her, we know what WE like and we support it. if the moon isn't coming into the standards (and i use that word loosely in regards to the post) he/she is expecting then "carry your sorry arse on to some other station that does" and we will all be the better for it.

This post was, like many I'm familiar with on usenet and more likely than not, a troll.

However, it evoked a very positive outburst of retorts in support of Aural Moon. If this was, as some here surmise, our old nemesis Cedric (aka Rick_Wakemen), his traducement of AM backfired.

[Michael]

Originally Posted by VAXman

Pea pods? Bean pods?



This post was, like many I'm familiar with on usenet and more likely than not, a troll.

However, it evoked a very positive outburst of retorts in support of Aural Moon. If this was, as some here surmise, our old nemesis Cedric (aka Rick_Wakemen), his traducement of AM backfired.

You know i been here for a while but who's Rick Wakemen i mean i know who it is from yes but who is it from here? now i im lost.....And about the post who cares its the internet its like that who cares what a chicken Boner(if you don't know what that is look it up ) has to say....

[Dark Side]

The only thing that I can say is: que se vaya para el carajo...

[Sintetista]

I disagree. noise music is part of the reason I love the moon. Seems like the so called progressivemusicsociety is not progressive in their thinking, rather regressive I would say.
JA, HA

[jtmckinley]

Well, sort of along the lines of what VAX & Poda said, this is the internet folks, unless there's some sort of large protest amongst Moon MEMBERS that the music quality of the stream is going to hell in a hand basket, this is a non-issue. Some random jackass on the intarwebs spewing his vitriol is no reason for concern and likely not worth wasting time on. 'nuff said...

[jrstudioboss]

Actually, though I don't agree with how and where he did it, I do agree with his point! I'm finding myself listening to deliciousagony, morow, and pandora a lot more of late because of the increasing amount of jazz fusion that's being played. For my tastes, technical confusion like the Gary Willis (just played), or Miles Davis are downright annoying! Do they really have a place here, I don't know, they are rather on the fringe, I kind of think that they are a part of their own genre, which would not include the vast majority of the A.M. library and I'm sure that there are enough listeners who like the jazz, so it'll stay, and I’ll exercise the freedom to vote with my mouse to rq something I like, or change stream. It's funny that this thread is running, because I was going to start one "is the rush to 30,000 CDs a good thing?" because it seems so much of the fringe is being added as filler, yet there's plenty of other mainstream prog that's not (Opeth, future kings of England, for example), I'm sure everyone can add a few to the list. I guess my agreement with the-clown-who-airs-our-dirty-laundry-in-public-without-the-balls-to-give-his-name is that if I want to listen to rap (not that I would!), pop, classical, dance, political talk, etc., there are plenty of other places to go for those, and scant few that play the prog which draws us here - please keep the prog pure and leave the other genres to other streams and radio stations.

Jim Rogers
aka jrstudioboss

[mailotron]

Originally Posted by jrstudioboss

- please keep the prog pure and leave the other genres to other streams and radio stations.

Jim Rogers
aka jrstudioboss

Hi, I fully agree with Jim's opinion, lot of fillers loosely related to prog rock as we use to like it here on the Moon (Miles Davis 's numerous additions ( i like him too ) or Sun Ra ( i personnally dislike ) to neme just a few.

[Rick and Roll]

Originally Posted by mailotron

Hi, I fully agree with Jim's opinion, lot of fillers loosely related to prog rock as we use to like it here on the Moon (Miles Davis 's numerous additions ( i like him too ) or Sun Ra ( i personnally dislike ) to neme just a few.

I can see your point as long as you make sure that you're defining the genre objectively. There are some who dislike an artist or song and say "it's not prog" because they don't like it.

So now that we've established objectivity, please define for me whether Ronnie Montrose's "Open Fire" belongs on the Moon. A favorite of mine, I don't consider it prog. But it's not my call. And it was deemed to be on the playlist and I am glad.

That's one of many examples - my point is that you have to let someone determine the course. I am perfectly willing to let Jim do this, as it is ultimately his station. Of course there is listener support, and that should be considered also.

As long as the discussion is reasoned and fair. I've become disenchanted about music discussion of late. It's starting to go like the politics and religion discussions where no one can talk about it without WW III starting.

[OverHillandDale(Admin)]

I wasn't going to get involved with this thread, but my observations of late compel me to do otherwise. I'm not going to state a preference (but I think many of you know my stance on the boundry, or lack there of, on the definition of the music that belongs here.)

Anyway, reading the posts in this and other forums I am reminded of the story of the 8 blind wise men. They are each instructed to touch a mysterious beast (an elephant) and tell of what they discovered about this creature. Well, you know the story by now, each touches a different part of the animal and all come up with a completely different description of the same animal. Which one of them is correct, they wanted to know. And the answer to that is that they are all correct.



So, turn up the music and enjoy.