Rankings and "do NOT play" suggestions

[Rick and Roll]

wanted to make sure that Yesspaz's & Stan's points were not glossed over - very true!

[DodgerMatt]

You don't go to a museum and say, "Take down this painting! It sucks, & I don't want to see it anymore!"

Who says? I do that at the MOMA all the time. But I say it in French so nobody knows what I'm saying. They just think I'm an art critic.

I didn't mean to stir up any GYBE fans. Shoulda guessed there must be at least ONE here for it to get so many requests. If all I can do is make a negative request then consider that one done.

As for the variety, I agree. That's one thing I find appealing here. I've heard a lot more bands here I've liked than disliked.

I'm also thinking of how you run your playlists. Do you have some sort of counter that cycles some of the songs or otherwise keeps track of air frequency? For instance, last month I heard Kraftwerk's "Autobahn" for the first time in about thirty years. Wow. That was an odd throwback. And while it is a repetitive tune, I listened through it...for old time's sake. Then I heard it again two days later. (I think I'd enjoy hearing it again in thirty years.)

Point is: There are (how many?) a LOT of tunes in your archives. Do you have mechanism for cycling a recently played tune to the bottom of the list (unless it is requested, recently released and hence probably more "timely", or a listener/program director favorite)?

[Rick and Roll]

I also hate to hear a song I like over and over. But make requests or use the mute button. The PTB (Avain and Jim) have enough to do!

When we get some of the tracks on here I've been asking for, I will request it quite a bit.

Here's a good example - I love Finch. Two of their four releases finally made it on AM. One of the songs has been requested to my count three times (and most likely more, since I'm not listening to AM more than an hour a day). I don't want to hear it more than once or twice every six months. But I'm glad someone is requesting/enjoying it. I can always turn it down/off!!!

And finally - if it's a "favorite", as you mention, does it get put at the bottom of the list because it's been recently played, or at the top? You seem to state both.

[DodgerMatt]

Rick and Roll: I also hate to hear a song I like over and over. But make requests or use the mute button. The PTB (Avain and Jim) have enough to do!

I always seek to improve what I think is good. and worth the effort. Turning the mute button on people at work might be a good thing, but it doesn't improve their performance.

I know a lot of times, I will go to extra lengths to automate tasks that might not pay off in timed saved fore a long time. I don't want to create work for Avian or Jim, but you never know until you try.

And finally - if it's a "favorite", as you mention, does it get put at the bottom of the list because it's been recently played, or at the top? You seem to state both.

My example would allow a list of favorites to bypass FIFO sequencing. If you have 1000 tunes, for example--configured in a random hierarchy from 1 to 1000--I imagine you could flag 100 as favorites that, instead of cycling down to #1000 after they are played, could be inserted at #100.

Just thinking out loud....

[Rick and Roll]

SOS!

[zvinki]

You seem to have a knack of remembering Neil's more embarassing lyrics, Rick. Pick on someone else!

[Rick and Roll]

problem is I remember all things Rush. Have a younger sister who's nuts about them, a son who's crazy about them, the best man at my wedding knew all the notes, etc.

I'll tell you what, every time I bring up a hackneyed Neil quote, I will put a clever one in. So, I'm -2 in the clever depatment:

1) "eyes wide open heart undefended innocence untarnished"
2) "there's no swimming in the heavy water, no singing in the acid rain"

There - we're even.

In high school I did a variation of "2112" called "21 shelves", and how there's a space prohibition and there's an underground distillery. Alas, the main character loses the fight, and has alcohol poisoning after drinking himself silly in a cave.

I always was a little jaded.

[progdirjim(Admin)]

Originally posted by Rick and Roll
problem is I remember all things Rush. Have a younger sister who's nuts about them, a son who's crazy about them, the best man at my wedding knew all the notes, etc.

I'll tell you what, every time I bring up a hackneyed Neil quote, I will put a clever one in. So, I'm -2 in the clever depatment:

1) "eyes wide open heart undefended innocence untarnished"
2) "there's no swimming in the heavy water, no singing in the acid rain"

There - we're even.

In high school I did a variation of "2112" called "21 shelves", and how there's a space prohibition and there's an underground distillery. Alas, the main character loses the fight, and has alcohol poisoning after drinking himself silly in a cave.

I always was a little jaded.

Again, I'd like to hear your variation - I enjoyed the alternate history awhile back. And I sort of object to you calling #1 "hackneyed" - yeah, that's weak compared to most of Neil's lyrics, but in context - that's when he was just starting to really get into lyrics beyond the context of basic rock songs - and I think that's a pretty nice rhythmic progression (4,5,6) for a basic song.

In a cave, hah? What was he drinking?

[Rick and Roll]

the printed word can lose a lot to translation...

The two lyrics of Neil's I mentioned before in the shoutbox were "Excitement so thick you could cut it with a knife" and "stuff" (both from "Countdown"). Zvinki was just ribbing me a bit (I usually deserve it!).

The two lyrics from "Cinderella Man" and "Distant Early Warning" are examples of GREAT lyrics, not hackneyed ones. In fact, 99% of Neil's lyrics ar better than most of anyone else's!

That "21 shelves" was long lost after college. I think the alcohol was only beer, as I was just a snot-nosed high school boy. Molson was our beer of choice (it's tough to exist in a Budweiser world)!

I do have a printed article about King Crimson's "Discipline" that I can send in the future.

[zvinki]

I'd love to hear your "21 shelves" as well. I'm a freak for all things Rush.

And what's with you Americans drinking Canadian beer!? Jnighting likes Labbatt and you drink Molson. Never mind the fact that there are MUCH better Canadian beers (Sleeman comes to mind but be careful how you pronounce it), I also know there are some very good American ones (although most of the microbreweries that I've tried are too hoppy).

[Rick and Roll]

Ice hockey is my favorite spectator sport (but you can have the fighting), I honeymooned in Toronto, and a lot of cool music comes from Canada. Plus out west there's the cool town names like Flin Flon, Medicine Hat, and Moose Jaw.

However, aren't you from the Quebec province? If so, I've never experienced that aspect of Canadian life. It would be cool to meet a French Elk.

Which one is the "Budweiser of Canada", Labatts or Molson? I remember Molson being susceptible to the "skunk effect" quite easily. Moosehead is good too.

But give me a Catamount, Fling Dog, Mackeson Stout, or Calsburg Elephant, and I'm happy.

When did Yuengling go from a crappy PA beer to top of the Microbrews???

If I can remember anything from "21 shelves" I'll do it. But it not soon.

Originally posted by Rick and Roll

But give me a Catamount, Fling Dog, Mackeson Stout, or Calsburg Elephant, and I'm happy.

Mackeson Stout???? I didn't think that got any further west than Lands End, Cornwall.

Man, you have great taste in beer as well as music. It's practically impossible to get in a pub these days............Tragedy.

[Extended Play]

Originally posted by Keith Waye
Mackeson Stout???? I didn't think that got any further west than Lands End, Cornwall.

Man, you have great taste in beer as well as music. It's practically impossible to get in a pub these days............Tragedy.

Mmmmm, Mackeson's not that hard to find over here, surprisingly enough. Of course, I got spoiled in the pubs in Salisbury and London. There's no way I can ever appreciate a US bar after that. Of course, I don't think I ever could before. Mmm, just gimme some Bombadier and a Guinness or two or three.

Originally posted by Extended Play

Mmm, just gimme some Bombadier and a Guinness or two or three.

Tommy,

You get over here quick, man and I'll treat you to some of the best beer you'll ever drinK.

Wadworths 6X, Marstons Pedigree, Young's Ordinary and Young's Special.

Christ!!! I'm thirsty now. Gotta crack open a can or three to quench the thirst.

Just managed to catch the Floyd on todays show. Great memories of Floyd at that time. Cheers for that.

[Extended Play]

Originally posted by Keith Waye
You get over here quick, man and I'll treat you to some of the best beer you'll ever drinK.

Wadworths 6X, Marstons Pedigree, Young's Ordinary and Young's Special.

Next time I'm over there, it's on. I just wish we could drink at lunch over here. I'm fiending for a beer now.

Tommy

[progdirjim(Admin)]

Originally posted by DodgerMatt


I'm also thinking of how you run your playlists. Do you have some sort of counter that cycles some of the songs or otherwise keeps track of air frequency? For instance, last month I heard Kraftwerk's "Autobahn" for the first time in about thirty years. Wow. That was an odd throwback. And while it is a repetitive tune, I listened through it...for old time's sake. Then I heard it again two days later. (I think I'd enjoy hearing it again in thirty years.)

Point is: There are (how many?) a LOT of tunes in your archives. Do you have mechanism for cycling a recently played tune to the bottom of the list (unless it is requested, recently released and hence probably more "timely", or a listener/program director favorite)?

the playlist plays through all the songs in the playlist in an essentially random order, but will play every song before repeating, unless 1)a request comes through or 2) one of us (Avian or myself) manually cues up a tune. For technical reasons I have not done so for months. So, if a tune is repeated, you can be pretty sure someone or someones are requesting it.

[progdirjim(Admin)]

Originally posted by Rick and Roll


When did Yuengling go from a crappy PA beer to top of the Microbrews???

this one, and Rolling Rock, crack me up - a microbrew should imply a modicum of quaity, not just a brewery that stayed small because no one wanted to drink their crappy beer!

[progdirjim(Admin)]

Originally posted by Rick and Roll
the printed word can lose a lot to translation...

The two lyrics from "Cinderella Man" and "Distant Early Warning" are examples of GREAT lyrics, not hackneyed ones. In fact, 99% of Neil's lyrics ar better than most of anyone else's!

ahh, I understand now. I've also had a lot less to drink than when I made my prior response...

[Extended Play]

Originally posted by progdirjim
this one, and Rolling Rock, crack me up - a microbrew should imply a modicum of quaity, not just a brewery that stayed small because no one wanted to drink their crappy beer!

In the grocery yesterday, I found it extremely funny that there's now a Rolling Rock Light. Huh? It's not light enough already? It makes Budweiser look like a full-bodied lager.

[Rick and Roll]

I knew that would get a response!

1) To drink Young's over here you need to take out a 2nd mortgage!

2) Gotta love the water PA beers - add Iron City and Schaefer to the list.

3) I have a can of Generic Beer and Generic Light. No s***.

Jim - how's the fire situation? It must be pretty bad.