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It is 'love of money" that is the root of all evil. Money, by itself, isn't evil. Only when we desire what is not ours, and hurt others to get it.... lots of things in life are like that. 2 cents for now... Don't quit making your voice heard. Ted |
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(§) This can't be true! Nowhere does it mention Al Gore and we all know HE invented the internet.
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I thought you hated You Tube?
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News to me. What about gefilte fish and licorice?
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The point is there are many salient points in that brief video. Having been around pre-CIX (launch date the 1st of Endless-September), I have seen the internet erode. The first big offender was AOL with its AOL "members-only" content... but, AOLers could salt the rest of the internet with their unique brand of netiquette (notiquette). Huh?
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He's got ya there.
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Lust, Gluttony, Greed, Sloth, Wrath, Envy and Pride. Money is just a modern mechanism for the measurement of these sins. Lust for it. Greed to a acquire it. Gluttony for more of it. Envy of it. I'm sure you could probably apply the rest of them too. Money, itself, is just a medium of exchange. When one says money is the root of all evil, they speak to the various sins as I've described. As for Optimism, I used to have abundant optimism. I think my cistern of optimism was finally drained dry the 3rd year I was in federal court. Remember David and Goliath? No, not the silly claymation, the story of little David doing battle with the giant Golliath. It is JUST a story. That's why my optimism is all dried up.
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Roger.Lee,
sometimes Optimism is all I got - so I cling to it - same with faith - but as with all things, this too shall pass - something my mother-in-law taught me. What bothers me most - this sort of reminds me of 'prohibition' - the more you restrict it - the more people will resort to illegal means.... I still think more of us can make our voice heard. Ted |
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http://www.npr.org/templates/story/s...toryId=5411449 That bed could use an electric blanket! The owner of RadioParadise ('you think Jim has problems!) made a statement this week that under the new plan, he'd owe $650,000 next year...! As the new law is retroactive to Jan.'06, he's likely looking at "grab yer ankles and grin" time. Pees K
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Gawd I hate lawyers. What is needed is a class legal action by all of the internet radio stations to get this nonsense put to bed. Sadly, it would require a really good IP lawyer(s) to squash this. I'd wager that if everyone who enjoys listening to internet radio coughed up $10 for the stream they are using, the collected amount might be enough to retain such legal representation. I'd caution against this because lawyering is about 2 things and 2 things only: greed and money. Once retained, these lawyers would drag this on ad infinitum -- if they could -- but the money on "our" side would be quickly depleted and we'd all be back in the same proverbial fecal infested waterway without a handheld propelling implement. Trust me on this. I spent 3.5 years in US Federal Court (Fed. Justice Garrett E. Brown). When everybody's pockets were emptied, the parties went off feeling ill-used and the lawyers well funded. Judge G.E.B. remained the fuckwit he always was.
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I'd rather just react and adapt, and not pay any money for representation also, but for a different reason. There are a few lawyers that will take a case like this on its merits. But it wouldn't be worth my time and effort if it cost me money without the guarantee of results. It isn't worth my time to stress over. |
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I wonder if this issue could be cast in such a way as to get the EFF interested? IIRC the EFF legal team works pro bono so that would remove the money-grubbing lawyer worries. In fact it looks like they're already involved with fighting the PERFORM act which seems related albeit maybe even worse:
https://secure.eff.org/site/Advocacy...rAction&id=221 Here's an overview page regarding their involvement with fair use and DRM, not sure if the rate increase issue would fit under that umbrella, but it might: http://www.eff.org/IP/fairuse/ Last edited by jtmckinley : 04-02-2007 at 02:12 PM. |
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" From the blog of Chris Thomas, founder of Palo Duro Records: "The U.S. Copyright Royalty Board has established a royalty proposal for webcasters (internet radio) which is absolutely insane, and will effectively wipe our the last remnants of passion-driven music programming from North America.
"This irresponsible government policy will push a tremendous growth opportunity and potential economic boom for the music industry to offshore locations immune to, and even defiant of, artist/label rights." Despite where the signal's actually streaming from, I'm thinking they're going to have a tough time busting a station that technically originates from outside the jurisdiction. Vax- let's figure out some blows against the empire. K
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Oh, very droll !
I don't think you have to go quite that far. Canada (so far) has flipped off the RIAA at every turn, including P2P file sharing. http://www.boingboing.net/2004/03/31...a_cant_pr.html So, let's look for a solution. After all, it's only Jim's money. How about offshore co-location? http://www.offshore-web-hosts.com/?g...FQqgYgodBycIkg http://www.offshore-web-hosts.com/colocation.php "Offshore Legal Services based in Panama Offshore is an international term meaning not only out of your country (jurisdiction) but out of the tax reach of your country of residence or citizenship; synonymous with foreign, transnational, global, international, transworld and multi-national. By hosting your website offer you are able to receive all of these benefits and not be under the direct jurisdiction of your resident country. This is particularly of interest to businesses who do not wish prying eyes to view their online transactions". K
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good stuff from David Byrne
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Hey Roger-
How's it going? 'Been squeezing any music into the schedule? Thanks for the link. I sincerely hope no one's holding out for Congress to fold on this one, but I guess if internet radio's going to roll over and die, it's a great time to be an indie, eh? P e a c e kirk
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Just FYI, my written response from proNJ Congressman Chris Smith re the RIAA/CRB rate increases:
http://www.tmesis.com/no_crap/
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I've been talking about a grass-roots campaign of public awareness... much like the Embrace Insanity group is doing to combat the forces trying to make extinct the ideas of net-neutrality. I called the link /no_crap for my plans to get a movement underway entitled: No C.R.A.P... for No Corporate & RIAA Approved Radio. It fits since most radio is crap and controlled by the Corps and RIAA. I am dismayed when I check, each day, the progress of the net petitions. The numbers seem to be hovering under the 50K signator mark. I feel that there are more people who would be concerned about this IF they knew about it. Distribute fliers, both physical and electronic, explaining what is happening to our freedom to listen to what we want to listen to and that it is being taken away in the interests of the Corps and RIAA. We are getting shortchanged in the same way as the artists represented by these leeches. Spread the word! No C.R.A.P. More on No C.R.A.P. later...
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