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Old 10-03-2004, 01:00 AM
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You're right R.L, you are in the minority. I love Neil Young's voice. He'll never get an award, but if I can describe it in one word that would is "haunting." He take can simple phrases, put that haunting tenor on them, and it's the best music of all time.

I heard a perfect echo die into an anoymous wall of digital sound.
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Old 10-03-2004, 08:37 AM
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I have to admit I'm a Neil young fan myself.
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Then post a subject called 'Neil Young' ... For Malmsteen I must admit his technique is perfect but I can't feel any emotionnal stuff in his music ... I think music, especially prog rock or metal must communicate feelings to the listeners ...
By the way I think Malmsteen worked with Jens Johannson, who is Stratovarius keyboardist ... Try to listen to Stratovarius recent albums ... kind of a progressive metal/speed metal music. You'll probably have the feeling you've heard 10 times the same song when the disc will be over ... Then you'll know what I think after listening to Rising Force.
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By the way I love Neil Young , especially Rockin' in the Free World, that you mentioned sooner.
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my Neil opinion

Don't like his voice......enjoy his music. Only thing I detest is "Neil Is God" garbage. He's a good songwriter. If he's a visionary, the natives on Deneb 3625 are laughing at us.

I love Decade. And the Crazy Horse stuff is intense (remember the dude walking in circles...the bass player maybe?). Cortez the Killer, etc...love it.

He's put out some piss poor stuff though...his cover on "On Broadway" is atrocious.

Comes A Time....what a tune!

Long may you run!

(Elric only on the Moon forum can we jump from Yngwie to Neil...I'll bet Neil even may like Yngwie)!
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nasally whine ala-buzzing mosquito singing voice
All due respect, and respect to all, I'm with you on this Roger. I just never quite understood.
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All due respect, and respect to all, I'm with you on this Roger. I just never quite understood.
I'm glad I'm not alone in my views of Kneel.

I think I also isolated one of the things that bothers me about him. My exposure to him has been mainly the pap that shows up on the Top! Of! The! Rock! Q99 ROQ or whatever the local equivalent happens to be, so my view might not be the most accurate of his entire body of work.

Having said that, I think one of the most irritating things about his 'music' is the pompus self-congratulatory socially correct commentary that he's constantly trying to thrust down my throat. I probably had the end of it on the 25,000,000,000th playing of "Southern Man", back in 1992, that set me off.

There are other artists that make my teeth itch; some even on The Moon. But few artists have the ability to make me cringe so badly as Kneel Jung.

And his kid can't sing either.

Roger -Dot- Lee, BAH! BAH! I say...
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And his kid can't sing either.

Are you sure you don't have him confused with Bob Dylan?
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And his kid can't sing either.

Are you sure you don't have him confused with Bob Dylan?
They both sound alike anyway. They both annoy me.

And yeah, the Osbournes are the musical equivalent of Microsoft in my eyes, too.

Roger -Dot- Lee, there's a difference between the two?
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Ahhh! Blasphemy! Neil Young and Crazy Horse's "Change Your Mind" will be played on the next BrainRock epic show. I beseech thee listen and appraise the wonder. If not - deal .
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Ahhh! Blasphemy! Neil Young and Crazy Horse's "Change Your Mind" will be played on the next BrainRock epic show. I beseech thee listen and appraise the wonder. If not - deal .
That's OK, I've got a substantial collection of tunes on my system, and my keyboard has a mute button built in, and I know how to use it.

Roger -Dot- Lee, called "quickdraw" for a very good reason.
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Re: my Neil opinion

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Only thing I detest is "Neil Is God" garbage. He's a good songwriter. If he's a visionary, the natives on Deneb 3625 are laughing at us.

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I'm quoting myself here to illustate a basic point: it's not his fault he's been elevated to such status. Same thing with Springshit and Tom Petty and Bob Dylan and Buffett. "Everybody Must Get Stoned" or whatever the hell that song is called is one of the most unlistenable pieces of garbage I have ever heard, yet it's beloved. Let's put the onus on the real problem, the yuppies that keep this stuff going.

I really don't think Neil Young gives a rat's ass about how he's perceived. That's the bottom line here.
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Old 10-05-2004, 12:26 PM
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I agree with Bob Dylan and Jimmy Buffet, but don't knock Tom Petty and The Boss around me!!!
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I agree with Bob Dylan and Jimmy Buffet, but don't knock Tom Petty and The Boss around me!!!
The Mount Rushmore of unlistenable music.
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The Mount Rushmore of unlistenable music.
top 5 post there!
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but all this debate just goes to show what I was trying to say in a different post - music is SUBJECTIVE. Any attempt to make it objective gets silly quick.

I like Neil young a lot, I think he's a great songwriter. If you don't like his voice, there's not a lot of hope you'll like many songs from him, because he's primarily a singer/songwriter. And, as Rick pointed out, he has put out some really bad stuff. "Landing On Water" is a bad album through and through. "Old Days" and "Everybody's Rocking" were shameful attempts at reacting to current trends.

I like Bob Dylan less, mainly because Dylan's voice irritates me somewhat - he brought poetry into rock (or was one of the first at least), and deserves some credit for that. But again, if you don't like his voice, you're not going to like him.

I like Springsteen- similar songwriting and voice discussions can apply here.

Petty (to ME) is just OK - some good stuff, some pop crap. I don't get how he is compared to the icons - but how can you objectively define that? If his music speaks to you, I won't try to change your opinion. And I guess this is ultimately my point - music is really personal - so why try to take that away from someone? Conversely, why try to change people to your point of view? Neil Young's music moves me - regardless of whether there's a billion or zero people who agree with me.

(Buffett is great at what he does - which is simple party music about boats and beaches and drinking. HE doesn't take himself seriously, so neither should you.)
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The Mount Rushmore of unlistenable music.
I'm breaking out my hammer and chisel and carving out some space for John Mellencamp while we're at it.

(Mellencamp is #1 on my list of worst artists of all time.)
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I'm breaking out my hammer and chisel and carving out some space for John Mellencamp while we're at it.

(Mellencamp is #1 on my list of worst artists of all time.)
I like two of his tunes......

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Petty (to ME) is just OK - some good stuff, some pop crap. I don't get how he is compared to the icons - but how can you objectively define that? If his music speaks to you, I won't try to change your opinion.
Petty to me IS an icon. If I had to pick between Tom Petty and a lot of the cloner-poser prog, I'll take Petty every day. He is a great songwriter. He occasionally does some off-the-cuff fun-and-meaningless songs, but most of his songs are deceptively deep. In fact, I think he embodied the spirit of prog when he wrote:

Well you canít turn him into a company man
You canít turn him into a whore
And the boys upstairs just donít understand anymore
Well the top brass donít like him talking so much
And he wonít play what they say to play
And he donít want to change what donít need to change
And there goes the last DJ
Who plays what he wants to play
And says what he wants to say
Hey, hey, hey
And there goes your freedom of choice
There goes the last human voice
There goes the last DJ

Well some folks say theyíre gonna hang him so high
Because you just canít do what he did
Thereís some things you just canít put in the minds of those kids
As we celebrate mediocrity all the boys upstairs want to see
How much youíll pay for what you used to get for free
And there goes the last DJ
Who plays what he wants to play
And says what he wants to say
Hey, hey, hey
And there goes your freedom of choice
There goes the last human voice
And there goes the last DJ

Well he got him a station down in Mexico
And sometimes it will kinda come in
And Iíll bust a move and remember how it was back then
There goes the last DJ
Who plays what he wants to play
And says what he wants to say
Hey, hey, hey
And there goes your freedom of choice
There goes the last human voice
And there goes the last DJ


Check out this interview/article. I'll tease it for you...

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The man who told the world "I Won't Back Down," "Don't Do Me Like That" and "Don't Come Around Here No More" doesn't need any assertiveness-training course. Tom Petty's determined, sometimes defiant attitude has collided with the music business throughout the years. For instance, in 1982 Petty recorded Hard Promises with the Heartbreakers, only to find that his then-record company had plans to use his name to initiate a new, higher $9.98 list price for albums. Petty withheld the tapes and threatened to retitle his record $8.98 in protest.
and this quote about his song The Last DJ, quoted above, being banned from radio:

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"I don't really give a flying fuck about any of it. I've tuned out. But I was elated when my song was banned. I mean, nothing could have complimented me more than to hear they just banned it at such-and-such a station because it's anti-radio. Now, in 2002 to have a song banned that doesn't have a dirty word, doesn't advocate violence -- it's fascinating, you know. Like, what are you afraid of? No record has ever been made that was more pro-radio, you know.
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nice lyrics.....

but ok, the music just bores me.
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