My (personal) opinion about a mis-use of the Speakeasy.

[deSousa]

Originally Posted by VAXman

Enlighten yourself instead of assuming, wrongly, that you are correct in those assumptions.

Your enlightenment is not being very enlightening to me. I was victim of a fraud attempt in 2008 which eventually lead me to be questioned by the judiciary police. I managed to proved I wasn't the culprit but the real criminal was never caught. When the case was closed the lead investigator told me in the end that they can only identify 1 in 100 of such fraudsters; if the IP of origin leads to somewhere outside the EU then you can simply forget about it.

So good luck in identifying someone that one day really tries to mess up in this forum.

[VAXman(Admin)]

Originally Posted by deSousa

Your enlightenment is not being very enlightening to me. I was victim of a fraud attempt in 2008 which eventually lead me to be questioned by the judiciary police. I managed to proved I wasn't the culprit but the real criminal was never caught. When the case was closed the lead investigator told me in the end that they can only identify 1 in 100 of such fraudsters; if the IP of origin leads to somewhere outside the EU then you can simply forget about it.

So good luck in identifying someone that one day really tries to mess up in this forum.

Commission of fraud and Freedom of Speech are two completely disparate issues.

I'd previously stated that "unless you're intentionally trying to hide using the clandestine methods of many hackers," because that's what they do. I won't elaborate here on the many ways in which they can hide their trail; let it suffice to say that they can and do.

[dinosaur]

Perhaps I am missing something. I always think of this as a site for AM listeners. Sure, every so often someone posts a link to something else (related to prog or not) or occasionally promotes their own music. I don't recall anyone ever getting up tight about it.
But on the other hand, it's unreasonable to expect the AM Speakeasy be available for a group of friends to show up and chat about, say, fast cars, or to swap soup recipes, especially if they're not even listening to AM at the time.
To my way of thinking, it's a simple matter of common courtesy, not free speech, or courts of law.

[NorCalKurt]

Members can promote here, I don't think anyone will complain. Unless it gets out of control. The whole point has been missed. Someone was hosting a show on another site and using the AM shout to host it. That's not ok. It's that simple.

[progdirjim(Admin)]

We've drifted off of the point of the thread. We, the providers of the Aural Moon: stream (me), website (Vaxman), key tech support (JamForte); all felt it inappropriate for a person who has not contributed anything to Aural Moon operations, who has a live radio show on another internet radio stream, HOST his show in our shoutbox. Meaning he invited all of his listeners to chat in the shoutbox, whilst his show was airing. The shoutbox consumes a LOT of bandwidth that Vaxman pays for out of his own pocket.

If you have a prog or proggish show outside of Aural Moon, you are welcome to post about it in the forum. You are welcome to talk about in shoutbox. Please, respect our wallets, and don't drain our resources that we provide out of the goodness of our hearts.

[emperorken]

Originally Posted by progdirjim

We've drifted off of the point of the thread. We, the providers of the Aural Moon: stream (me), website (Vaxman), key tech support (JamForte); all felt it inappropriate for a person who has not contributed anything to Aural Moon operations, who has a live radio show on another internet radio stream, HOST his show in our shoutbox. Meaning he invited all of his listeners to chat in the shoutbox, whilst his show was airing. The shoutbox consumes a LOT of bandwidth that Vaxman pays for out of his own pocket.

If you have a prog or proggish show outside of Aural Moon, you are welcome to post about it in the forum. You are welcome to talk about in shoutbox. Please, respect our wallets, and don't drain our resources that we provide out of the goodness of our hearts.

Hopefully this will inspire a few people.