Overrequesting?

[Roger -Dot- Lee(Admin)]

Greetings and salutations, ladies and gents!

Now that we've had a bit of time to let all the new changes to the station settle in, I'm of a mind that it's time to take a look at an old problem: IE, overrequesting.

Specifically, as my current place of employment frowns upon such niceties as 'streaming audio' in favor of multi-megabyte sized powerpoint presentations that have all the useful information content of a modest sized portion of soggy oatmeal (and is just as pleasant to read), my access to the station has been, shall we say, a tad limited. Ah well, they pay the bills.

Anyway, what's the poop? Are things still being overrequested? Has that problem largely abated? Are y'all, by and large, behaving yourselves to the point where I can reset the RQ limits to where they were back in the Good Olde Days(TM)?

Comments?

I'll keep an eye on things.

Roger -Dot- Lee, No really! Quit laughing so hard, Rick, I really mean it!

[Rick and Roll]

laugh? trying to figure out why....

Anyway, a question...are there looser request limits? The ones in place now seem to work fine, and seem to be quite fair. I'd hate to think there are easier request rules.

A help would be to post them here and see what comments you get. I'm not sure everyone knows them (I know I don't know all of the rules).

I'm still convinced things slip through, and I swore I heard "Aqualung" on consecutive days (that's a song that should never be requested lol)...

The only thing I can think of is that certain songs will be requested over and over for a few weeks, then it's something else. Probably just the nature of things.

[progdirjim(Admin)]

I would say overall things have been OK, but I am not in favor of relaxing any rules at this point. I don't think the rules are too restrictive...

[PeterG]

Oh, I know what you mean... the bad songs come on too often and the good songs don't come on as much ; )

[MrMagoo]

Originally Posted by progdirjim

I would say overall things have been OK, but I am not in favor of relaxing any rules at this point. I don't think the rules are too restrictive...

I agree.

[Bmithra]

As far as I can tell, it seems to be working for now. My only gripe is the same one I have had since it was started, Wednesday. But I can live with it. I still disagree with it, but I think I have bitched about that enough in the past. Nothing more need be said about that by me.

I have to say that I agree with Jim and MrMagoo!

[VERNIXX]

I actually skip Wednesdays at the Moon because of no requests.

SAM as well as admin requests just don't do it for me........

[mossy]

I'm not keen on Wednesdays either, but many folks appreciate them so I shut my trap most of the time.

[Elric68]

Same here. I prefer request times, but I think Wednesdays are a good thing, though.

Anyways, I think the overrequesting problem is now over. And there are lots of things I've never heard here playing these days, so I'm quite satisfied with the requests.

[lotus]

Originally Posted by Elric68

Anyways, I think the overrequesting problem is now over.

I think that this problem that we had (13 time DK, 9 time TFK etc) comming all from one requester cheatring amateurwise our system, can erase anytime again. (Thanks again to Vax resolving this particular one).

In order not to have this prob again, I suggest to have rq only for members. In addition to that (but this is not so important, but funny so that we can blame him/her in shout... ), every requester should be shown by name with the possibility to dedicate the tune.

Regarding rules for requests they are fine for me, but should be explained somewhere on the rq page.

And finally, I like RFW.

[setsail]

Originally Posted by VERNIXX

I actually skip Wednesdays at the Moon because of no requests.

So THAT'S why they aren't going through today.

As a newbie I should have read the rules.

But hey that stinks, though I don't pay the bills here.

But I'm with ya about skipping wednesdays too.

OUT TIL TOMMORROW.

[Rick and Roll]

Originally Posted by lotus

I think that this problem that we had (13 time DK, 9 time TFK etc) comming all from one requester cheatring amateurwise our system, can erase anytime again. (Thanks again to Vax resolving this particular one).

In order not to have this prob again, I suggest to have rq only for members. In addition to that (but this is not so important, but funny so that we can blame him/her in shout... ), every requester should be shown by name with the possibility to dedicate the tune.

Regarding rules for requests they are fine for me, but should be explained somewhere on the rq page.

And finally, I like RFW.

I try to refrain from these discussions becuase I have a show, and that inherently may create a bias/conflict of interest. But allow me to take off my show hat for a minute...

I enjoy RFW. You hear some neat stuff. However, if you eliminate RFW, maybe a script (forgive me I know not the term) could be written to have SAM throw in every third song. Something like that....and the rules work well, but there seems to be the consensus that rules should be posted. more info is always good.

You could move request free days to monday or tuesday or both. There's already 5 hrs of shows on monday and 6+ on tuesday. it could be argued that they are already rq free times.

I agree with all of what Lotus says except the members limitation. i'd rather not see a rule made to fix an issue that pops up only occasionally.

[lotus]

I forgot one thing...Request queue should be cleared when RFW begins, IMHO it makes no sense to ply rq's after 24 hours or more. So requests should be allowed then again 1 hour before RFW (or RFM, RFT, RFT etc) finnishes.

Comming back to Rick, maybe there would be a better day, I personally do not care as far as there is one day per week.

[RogorMortis]

Originally Posted by VERNIXX

I actually skip Wednesdays at the Moon because of no requests.

SAM as well as admin requests just don't do it for me........

I was speaking last week to the Danish representative for MUSEA records who happens to be French and a progger and he gave the impression that he would listen to AM on Wednesdays to catch some of the more rarer music as he didn't care for the requests. So there are always two sides to a coin.

[VAXman(Admin)]

Originally Posted by Rick and Roll

I enjoy RFW. You hear some neat stuff. However, if you eliminate RFW, maybe a script (forgive me I know not the term) could be written to have SAM throw in every third song. Something like that....and the rules work well, but there seems to be the consensus that rules should be posted. more info is always good.

SAM already fills in the "holes" so to speak.

The problem is the long shows and replays thereof. These stall the request queue and then, when requests can again ensue, they simply get dumped into the play queue.

[VAXman(Admin)]

Originally Posted by lotus

In order not to have this prob again, I suggest to have rq only for members. In addition to that (but this is not so important, but funny so that we can blame him/her in shout... ), every requester should be shown by name with the possibility to dedicate the tune.

This I like... accountability!

Then, if somebody is over-requesting, he/she can be dealt with appropriately!

[Rick and Roll]

Originally Posted by RogorMortis

I was speaking last week to the Danish representative for MUSEA records who happens to be French and a progger and he gave the impression that he would listen to AM on Wednesdays to catch some of the more rarer music as he didn't care for the requests. So there are always two sides to a coin.

True...goes to show you though there isn't enough Danish proggers, if the rep is French

[Rick and Roll]

Originally Posted by VAXman

SAM already fills in the "holes" so to speak.

The problem is the long shows and replays thereof. These stall the request queue and then, when requests can again ensue, they simply get dumped into the play queue.

Thought so about SAM. The stalling of the queue could be another reason to move RFW. I used to be able to move them up to play before the Monday play of my show but I'm never home anymore to do so.

[Roger -Dot- Lee(Admin)]

OK, perhaps it's time to repost the SAM request rules.

Person-based rule:
Each person (as restricted and identified by IP address) can request up to 10 times per day. Each request must be seperated by 60 minutes.

Album-based rule:
No two tracks from the same album can be played in the same hour. In other words, if a different song off of the same album has played within the same hour, the request will be denied.

Artist based rule:
No two songs from the same artist will be played within the same 120 minute (two hour) time frame.

Title based rule:
No two songs with the same title will be played within the same 480 minute (8 hour) time frame.

The same track will not be played twice within the same 24 hour period.

Examples:

You want to request "Time and A Word" by Yes.

If another track off of any other Yes album has played in the last hour, it will be denied.

If another track off of Time And A Word has played in the last TWO hours, it will be denied.

If another track by the name "Time And A Word" (say, off of Yes, Live at the Hollywood Bowl (if there were such a beastie) played in the last 8 hours, it would be denied.

The same track will only play once per 2880 minutes (24 hours).

Note: these apply to requested as well as SAM chosen songs or songs that are part of a show (provided the show isn't a single pre-recorded file (such as Fusion Reaction, Rickter Scale, etc., and unlike The Gagliarchives, etc)).

Hope that clears up some confusion. And it looks like RQs are working just fine thanks!

Roger -Dot- Lee, no reason to change...

[Rick and Roll]

perfect Dot.....

now if we can get that on the main page or make it a "sticky", we'll be all set!