"World" music

[roger]

I can't find the Spock harp video, but I did find the one of him singing the Bilbo Baggins song... oy.

[Rick and Roll]

I already have the Bilbo song


The reason I started this thread was an offhand remark i made that jim thought would make a good thread.

I'd have responded sooner but my email failed to alert me to new posts

Anyway,

Spaz I disagree vehemently with your statement about Keith Urban et al. Country music is not country music anymore. It's pop. Keith Urban is a pop artist that sounds country. Country has invaded the fabric of America (like Nascar) to the point that the accepatable muzak is Country Pop. Go into any supermarket, doctor's office etc. You'll hear it. Country is now Mainstream.

Keith Urban being Aussie proves NOTHING about the validity of anything. He's just a pretty boy (voted #3 sexiest star, don't read into why I know that, I retain silly useless info) that happens to be banging Nicole Kidman. he's not a "Country" artist per se.

"Native aboriginal music" is not World, it's just native aboriginal music.

I agree with Sharc. Peter Gabriel using Youssou N'dour on vocals does not make him a World artist. Such bullshit these terms...I still don't know what the hell "smart pop" is...

I wish you all could have heard Tony Levin's Nearfest story about a song he did with Peter Gabriel and an ape. What to call that?

[mossy]

Actually, he's now banging his wife... as of a couple of weeks ago.

mossy (another retainer of silly useless info)

[Rick and Roll]

Originally Posted by mossy

Actually, he's now banging his wife... as of a couple of weeks ago.

mossy (another retainer of silly useless info)

I knew that... I was just using the verbage to say that's one of the reasons he's more popular than others.....I was surprised to hear he's late 30's like she is (or so she says haha)..I thought he was a young thing.

[mossy]

Right. I was taking you too literally (dangerous!). As with "World Music", there's another term which is open to interpretation. "Banging". To me that's what you do with someone when you're not married......or.....when you are married but not with your spouse.

Oh, and I think Keith Urban is originally from New Zealand, but moved to Oz as a kid. Nicole Kidman was born in Hawaii and moved to Oz as a kid. I always thought she married Tom Cruise for a green card.

[Rick and Roll]

Originally Posted by mossy

Right. I was taking you too literally (dangerous!). As with "World Music", there's another term which is open to interpretation. "Banging". To me that's what you do with someone when you're not married......or.....when you are married but not with your spouse.

Oh, and I think Keith Urban is originally from New Zealand, but moved to Oz as a kid. Nicole Kidman was born in Hawaii and moved to Oz as a kid. I always thought she married Tom Cruise for a green card.

Could be...like faffing I guess...couldn't you bang with your spouse? Yeah i guess you're right...my head hurts

Oz? Is that Austraila?

If he's from NZ does that mean he's a Maori artist?

[mossy]

somebody's opinion...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_music

[Yesspaz]

Originally Posted by Rick and Roll

Spaz I disagree vehemently with your statement about Keith Urban et al. Country music is not country music anymore. It's pop. Keith Urban is a pop artist that sounds country. Country has invaded the fabric of America (like Nascar) to the point that the accepatable muzak is Country Pop. Go into any supermarket, doctor's office etc. You'll hear it. Country is now Mainstream.

I agree with Sharc. Peter Gabriel using Youssou N'dour on vocals does not make him a World artist. Such bullshit these terms...I still don't know what the hell "smart pop" is...

1. I know that Country music today isn't the same thing as country in the 50s and 60s. We all know that, but that's not the point. The point is today's country music is an established style and Keith Urban does it' so he's country, place of origin being irrelevant. And Peter Gabriel using Youssou N'dour does not make him a world artist - agreed - but it does make him "world influenced" or something like that. He's not world, but he's "whatever" with a little world music thrown in. We do this every day with other styles of music: "Oh it's sort of a hard rock sound with a little jazz." That's not a problem at all, but OOOOOH, as soon as it's "a little world" music that's thrown in, now we have issues.

2. "smart pop" - I didn't intend that to read as a genre, just a description. Britney Spear's music I would not describe as smart pop, but Peter Gabriel I would. It's poppy music that has an intellectual appeal. Top 40 right now: Gnarls Barkley's "Crazy" is smart pop - again, as a descriptor, not as a genre. It's pop that is smart, clever, really well done.

[Hawksun]

Originally Posted by Rick and Roll

I wish you all could have heard Tony Levin's Nearfest story about a song he did with Peter Gabriel and an ape. What to call that?

Zoocore is my best guess.