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I'm glad you posted that vax, it gives good perspective on why you feel the way you do about Marillion - and hopefully Coyote and others can join you in seeing them in the future.
I am not a Hogath hater. However, I don't like much after Seasons End. It's not the vocals..it's the music. Emotion only goes so far...you need vibrancy in the music. I don't feel it. The first time I noticed this was seeing "Univited Guest" performed live, then hearing it on the record. What a difference! So flaccid on CD, but excellent live. There's only a handful of songs after that that come to mind as vibrant. "Dry Land" is a beautiful song. Reminds me of a Marty Balin song, almost commercial. Rothery's stunning guitar makes it for me. But these moments are too few. It's the band that disappoints me. I honestly think they've gotten lazy. Brave sealed it - I just can't get into it. It's not a metal thing. Sure I like heavy, but I also listen to stuff that makes Brave sound like Anthrax. Nothing to do with heavy. Funny, the LACK of musical emotion is my beef. All that said, I'd like to sample Marbles. I'll always give things a shot. But this Fish vs. SH thing is silly. it's just the natural evolution of bands. I don't care if Englebert Humperdick (sp error intentional) sung on Misplaced, Clutching, or Fugazi), it would still rock my world. The music on Fugazi still tingles the spine. Look at any other band, no matter the personnel changes, they just wear out. I'm not a prog purist or snob (except for Queen and Paul Rodgers lol), so let SH be.... And I still feel that Phil Collins is not the anti-christ (I like the Yoko Ono reference vax, very apt). look at Calling All Stations. Ray Wilson on vocals, but the album is crappy because of Banks and Rutherford. It's embarassingly pedestrian. the music of the song "Abacab" is simplistic...that's not Phil's fault. After all didn't Mike have the Mechanics? Yuck! There are some high points in later Genesis, but much less frequent. That's just the way it is. So that's why I'm not interested in Marillion anymore. Last edited by Rick and Roll : 07-24-2006 at 09:38 PM. |
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don't want to polemize ( ?) cos' I'm not good enough in english to do so but there is a lot of emotion in songs like Chelsea monday, white russian or warm wet circles to name but a few. Just for the record, I like Marillion-H a lot and never tried to compare two so different characters
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Thanks Mail, I'm trying not to make this a Steve vs Derek thing. Really doesn't interest me.
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Yeah, I always stay away from H vs Fish. To me they're different bands now. I think they've both put out great stuff, and some weaker stuff.
Marillion had two albums out i didn't care for. Radiation and dotcom. Anaraknophobia was a step in the right direction and Marbles is a classic. Fish peaked with Sunsets on Empire; Zippos was great IF you liked Plague of Ghosts; but his last two, I've been indifferent to. I've seen both live countless times. Like VAX, I've also spoken to them on many occasions. I prefer Fish, overall, I think he's far more laid back than H after a gig. After gigs it's easier to chat with Fish as H is normally hounded by all the ladies! I'll probably see VAX in Holland next February. |
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Like I said, otherwise I enjoyed everything they did post Fish...except for Holidays In Eden which was a real bore. I didn't actually like Brave originally, until I saw them do parts of it live on the Sunlight tour. Now I love it. And I think Marbles is one of the greatest albums they've done ever. |
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I have a friend who went to a Tears for Fears show with me in 1986 I believe. During "Seeds of Love" they broke into a 20 second rap. It ruined the otherwise GREAT show for him. I was incredulous with his intolerance. I don't like rap at all, but really it was a small thing. Reason I bring that up is the "rap" on Sunsets is innocuous (assuming it's the Brother 52 song). Hope it is....I'm playing that in a month or so on the show. Stooping low? It's just a bit part. |
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Debating taste is kinda pointless but we sooo like to do it don't we?
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Although I agree with "LOSE THE THESAURUS" to an extend, it's still rock and Fish lyrics captured its spirit better imho. At the end of a day both is good music to listen to and since it covers wider range of listener's mood we're better off this way. So what's next, Barrett/Waters/Gilmour Floyds or have you guys covered that already? ![]()
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Don't know about the Floyd. Like them fine but not going there. But it would be a ligtning rod I'm sure! |
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