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Old 12-14-2006, 11:16 PM
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I think what VAX wrote echoes what I wrote and is what I was alluding to, at least regarding conservation of angular momentum, though I didn't mention that explicitly. Essentially, I think, feel free to correct me if you think I'm wrong, is that any system of particles has a fundamental angular momentum due to the fact that they're all moving relative to each other, unless they are all heading toward a fixed point of course. Consequently, conservation of angular momentum inevitably results in spinning objects formed from a cloud of individual particles due to the non-uniformity of motion of the particles in the cloud. The point is that if you add gravity into that system, the particles attract one another, and there is an angular momentum of that system that is conserved when they coalesce. Therefore, if angular momentum is conserved (which it is, as far as I know, at least in the case of dust particles and other macroscopic entities) , it is inevitable that condensed clouds of gas or dust will exhibit rotation. VAX rightly points out that the idea of curved space isn't necessary to explain this behaviour, Newtonian mechanics will suffice. I only mentioned curved space because that was easy to make the "marble" model with.
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Old 12-23-2006, 10:38 PM
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Sometimes in the interests of condensing the meaning is lost. A while ago I tried to introduce the element of medicine in science. Check out the following quote. A little background - Barbaro is a horse that broke down during a race in Baltimore. Since then (April), everyone seems to be interested in the horse's well being. Here's an excerpt from the main doctor's take on how the horse is doing...

"Dean Richardson of the University of Pennsylvania's New Bolton Center also is positive about the colt's recovery. The chief surgeon just doesn't see it as anything more than good medicine.

'It's not a miracle. It's anything but that' he said. 'Some of the Barbaro fans aren't going to like that, perhaps. I'm a scientist. I'm a doctor. I'm not a faith healer or a religious person. I believe in the application of science, and I think nothing that's happened to him is particularly miraculous.'"

For all of the pragmatic, b/w thinkers like myself, that's a perfect quote.

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'It's not a miracle. It's anything but that' he said. 'Some of the Barbaro fans aren't going to like that, perhaps. I'm a scientist. I'm a doctor. I'm not a faith healer or a religious person. I believe in the application of science, and I think nothing that's happened to him is particularly miraculous.'"
The scientist who yields anything to theology, however slight, is yielding to ignorance and false pretenses, and as certainly as if he granted that a horse-hair put into a bottle of water will turn into a snake. -- H. L. Mencken

A great quote which tied into Rick's post about religion and science ... and a horse.
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Old 12-24-2006, 09:27 AM
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A horse....where's Dekhands when you need him?

Mencken - from Baltimore . From what I gather he sat around making up quotes. What a life.....
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A horse....where's Dekhands when you need him?
Horsing around somewhere in Freehold I'd wager!

I have to ask him if he wants to buy my lil' sister's horse farm in Aiken, SC.
It's modestly priced at $1.2M.


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