Commercials on Aural Moon?

[VAXman(Admin)]

Originally Posted by PeterG

I would also prefer to not have any ads.

Even tho Gags has PSAs... they drive me nuts...

Not to derail this thread and open another can of worms, but at least there is something gained there -- a show. This was a request to air a commercial -- just a commercial.

[cribguy]

No ads, please.

I agree with those who say if money is ever needed, just ask. You don't want to get into the 'commercial' radio arena. Guest spots might be good, like the station promos with Moon artists. I mean, we do listen to their music mostly for free. But I don't think spots for other sites is a good idea, no matter how short.

[Toccata]

This is a questionable theme, but to me, like a listener, I would'nt like!!
Toc.

[gr8sho92]

Originally Posted by Rick and Roll

You mean "popuparchives"? They are a good source of info however.

I can't imagine anyone thinking that playing a commercial on AM is a good idea, even if it is progarchives. And no offense to those guys.

I use progarchives often like many. It is a tremendous resource for getting mostly good reviews and information about bands. The forum is tough to troll through (a rediculous amount of repeat posts and annoying avatars), but I do use that from time to time too.

Providing a means to link to external prog resources in the least intrusive way as possible is not a bad idea. Progarchives is but one choice, and there are several I have bookmarked myself along the travel.

Since they did ask, they deserver a formal response from Jim. It probably would come across in the form of a policy statement from the station owner.

Vax, thanks for soliciting responses from the listener base.

[RogorMortis]

And now Mortis will throw in his words.

No ads - I do not want to here the words " and now a word from our sponsor" or whatever. I agree with Mossy.

Though I would accept the possibility of sponsorship of shows though I don't think it is viable in this day and age with our small market. Anyway who would pay for ads for 180 lost souls anyway.

[MrMagoo]

No ads, plz! Especially that one - ewwww - even though I too frequent PA for research & info. A link page is a good idea, as is (perhaps) a station ID mentioning PA.

[Yesspaz]

Originally Posted by VAXman

I was contacted my a representative from another prog rock site. They've requested that we run a 30 second advert for their site. I was sent an .MP3 of their commercial. So, what is your opinion?

First, whether we had commercials or not, why would we air a commercial for another station? "Hey, go listen to these guys!"

Anyway, I've thought before that I'd not be opposed to having commercials on AM. There are a few qualifications.

1. They'd need to remain a minimum. Say, on thirty second commercial every five songs, regardless of length. SAM could be programmed to pull them in.

2. They'd need to be for non-controversial products, like music sellers or Coke. Anything that might get someone up in arms over politics or religion or whatever would defeat the purpose of having a site that was about music.

3. Let's differentiate here between commericials and promos and public service announcements. If I were to be inundated with PSAs for political causes, I'd go elsewhere. My undergraduate degree is in mass media, so, for what it's worth, a commercial is just what the name suggests - commerce related. I'm not sure how the rules work, but it's something like $0.02 per listener when the thing airs. This would be a great way to ensure AM's financial survival. But, I'm not sure what that would do when hitting the whole profit/non-profit thing and paying royalties. So, if that'd mess it up, then by no means should we have commercials.

[progdirjim(Admin)]

Sorry folks, I'm on holiday and not checking in as often as usual.

We will NEVER run audible advertisements in the stream. No way, no how, nein, non, no. Any questions?

I like progarchives, and would be happy to link to them. Vax, in your oh so abundant spare time, maybe we can brainstorm about the best way to add a links page or tab. Low priority, of course.

More feedback is welcome, but unnecessary...

[Rick and Roll]

Originally Posted by progdirjim

Sorry folks, I'm on holiday and not checking in as often as usual.

We will NEVER run audible advertisements in the stream. No way, no how, nein, non, no. Any questions?

I like progarchives, and would be happy to link to them. Vax, in your oh so abundant spare time, maybe we can brainstorm about the best way to add a links page or tab. Low priority, of course.

More feedback is welcome, but unnecessary...

I am the king of unneccessity.....

A small banner I think - Rosfest has long asked to trade banners too.

[mossy]

We will NEVER run audible advertisements in the stream. No way, no how, nein, non, no. Any questions?

Nope...I think that just about answers it.

[NorCalKurt]

Originally Posted by progdirjim

Sorry folks, I'm on holiday and not checking in as often as usual.

We will NEVER run audible advertisements in the stream. No way, no how, nein, non, no. Any questions?

I like progarchives, and would be happy to link to them. Vax, in your oh so abundant spare time, maybe we can brainstorm about the best way to add a links page or tab. Low priority, of course.

More feedback is welcome, but unnecessary...

BRAVO JIM.

[TheFish]

Ring up another 'nay' for me.

[museman]

the vote looks in, no to commericals

[OverHillandDale(Admin)]

Originally Posted by progdirjim

We will NEVER run audible advertisements in the stream. No way, no how, nein, non, no. Any questions?

I'm not sure I know what you mean, Jim. Are you sure that's how you feel? You were a little vague.


All kidding aside - thanks!

[Thor]

Advertising..... hmmm.... NO is my vote. and Especially at 30sec. If they want to do something where their name gets mentioned, a Station ID would be better.

like: "Hello, this is ProgArchives.com. When we're not busy being the history keepers for the world of prog music we're busy listening to Aural Moon, the internets premiere progressive rock radio.

and no physical ads.

let's keep the current precident. even if it means they give AM money. in the long run, it's not worth it.

[Cozy]

I was going to say that I'm not personally opposed to some sort of commercial advertisement if it benefits AM in the long run. But it'd have to be a very limited basis, and the commercial has a limited run before it goes.

But after Jim chimed in, he's made his position clear. So that is that.

Though I would like to see that Caamora tag go. It's old and it's self-serving imo.

This, of course, brings up a new question though. Should we do some new tags for the Moon in 2008?

Originally Posted by Cozy

Should we do some new tags for the Moon in 2008?

Definitely!!!

[Rick and Roll]

That Caamora tag was old after it started...but I wouldn't say self-serving, they mention their names and Aural Moon. If they didn't metion who they were what's the point? Does seem to run a lot though.

I mention the current artist, my show name, Aural Moon, and "The net's progressive Rock garden" three times during my show. It's the least I can do.

And yes, new tags would be good...in moderation.

[ramsgate]

Ad free is fine with me.

Ramsgate.