Aural Moon unlistenable

[schupdoggy]

Originally Posted by sharcnorris

ahhhh, Magma ,Can, Popo Vah, Even a droning Miles. Not my Music but music just the same, I think this is about out right noise......

I like some of the (noise) bands and some I don't like.
A few I like are...

Godspeed You Black Emperor!
Don Caballero
Sigur Ros
Explosions In The Sky
A Silver Mt. Zion
Appleseed Cast
Mogwai
Tangerine Dream
Brian Eno
Klaus Schulze
Kraftwerk
Henry Cow
Sleepytime Gorilla Museum
Samla Mammas Manna
Universe Zero
Alamaailman Vasarat
Mr. Bungle
Guapo
Mats/Morgan Band
Faust
Art Zoyd
Art Bears

[schupdoggy]

Oh yeah, I forgot the great FRANK ZAPPA!
some consider him noise

[VAXman(Admin)]

Originally Posted by schupdoggy

I like some of the (noise) bands and some I don't like.
A few I like are...

Godspeed You Black Emperor!
Don Caballero
Sigur Ros
Explosions In The Sky
A Silver Mt. Zion
Appleseed Cast
Mogwai

Hey Spaz, stop logging in with schupdoggy's account!

[sharcnorris]

Originally Posted by schupdoggy

I like some of the (noise) bands and some I don't like.
A few I like are...

Godspeed You Black Emperor!
Don Caballero
Sigur Ros
Explosions In The Sky
A Silver Mt. Zion
Appleseed Cast
Mogwai
new add... Can
new add... Magma
Sleepytime Gorilla Museum
Samla Mammas Manna
Universe Zero
Alamaailman Vasarat
Mr. Bungle
New add... Tarental
Mats/Morgan Band
Faust
Art Zoyd
Art Bears
new add... anything donated by Yesspaz, especially Miles

Thanks Shuppy, add Tarentel, Sun Ra, and Magma and this is a great List of Noise I would remove from the Moons playlist... Thank again

[Yesspaz]

Originally Posted by progdirjim

I am of the belief that some of the Miles that has been mentioned, if I claimed it was Caravan from some bootleg or lost album, it would be praised rather than condemned.

Yep yep.

[Yesspaz]

Originally Posted by VAXman

Hey Spaz, stop logging in with schupdoggy's account!

I was just about to quote his post and claim (either for praise or derision) just how many of those were donated by me!

[Yesspaz]

Originally Posted by sharcnorris

Thanks Shuppy, add Tarentel, Sun Ra, and Magma and this is a great List of Noise I would remove from the Moons playlist... Thank again

Well, we'll never define prog, but would someone define "Noise" for me? It seems like the running definition being used by some people here is "things I don't like." The term "noisy" may be more appropriate when discussing Sun Ra or Magma, but not "noise." (Without referring to a dictionary) Noise is non-repetitive, non-melodic, non-sensical, non-harmonic. In other words, there's no overlying or underlying meaning behind the arrangement of the sounds heard. This cannot be said of ANY of the artists listed.

There are quite a few artists out there who've purposefully written pretty music and then put noise on top of it. There are bands who's chosen chords and harmony are extremely dissonant. There are artists who's improvisational nature means at times the piece is barely holding together. None of this constitutes noise. If so, then while removing fusion Miles, we should remove the much more cacophonic improvs from 70s King Crimson. They're much more "challenging" and "noisy." at times.



Define noise. Something you don't like, or something that actually is not music?

[Borfus]

If I may just add my 2 cents re: "noise" -

I seems to me that, while I don't think this is the appropriate forum to discuss the definition of prog, I think that it is all about expanding the boundaries of musical convention. When Crimso and Yes and Genesis et. al. were first producing their music, it was mostly considered experimental or unusual at the time. Rock-n-roll itself was decried as noise by many during its formative years.

Progressive music is about using different sounds, structures or harmonic situations, and sometimes this requires the use of elements that are conventionally considered noise. Admittedly, much of what I would consider to be "noise music" (e.g. Einsturzende Neubauten) I don't regard as "prog rock," due to the absence of the "rock" element or mood (yet another vague definition here...). Of course, this is just MHO.

As for jazz, I do think of fusion-y groups as being in the prog genre. This is because the reason it was named fusion to begin with was that it was a fusion of rock and jazz. Artists such as Brand X, Jeff Beck, Miles Davis, Mahavishnu, Weather Report, etc. are examples of such, but not necessarily the entire catalog thereof qualifies (Miles is a good example of this since some of his music I think of as more straight, if unusual, jazz).

Again, just my opinion. AM has eschewed some material that I would consider prog rock, but I'm not going to go away just because of that. For the most part, I enjoy the variety of music available on this station, and I commend the administrators of this site for this.

As an aside, I would like to say that there are some artists that I find I don't enjoy (I wont mention them by name because I realize that there are some rabid fans of these groups here and I don't want to start some sort of flame war...), but it's primarily because I find the music to be a little too derivative of other more talented artists, but I listen anyway. Who knows? Perhaps I will grow to like them after all...

Thank you for the music, all, and don't let the bastards get you down!

Borfus Wallaby

www.myspace.com/borfuswallabymusic
www.everydayprophets.com

[Rick and Roll]

Borfus, that was well said...

[deluge71]

Originally Posted by mailotron

HINT : Détritus is a common use french word ( rubish/garbage)

My favorite variation of the word is "detritivore" which is defined as one who feeds on said rubbish/garbage. Crayfish/crawdads are an example, as they survive on aquatic waste (i.e., decayed animals and/or vegetation).

I'm sure you all couldn't live another minute without knowing that, right?

[kevishev]

Originally Posted by Borfus

Thank you for the music, all, and don't let the bastards get you down!

Borfus Wallaby

Thank you for that sentiment Borfus. I could not have expressed it better myself. It almost sounds like it should be some kind of prog rock mantra.

[Yesspaz]

Originally Posted by Borfus

Thank you for the music, all, and don't let the bastards get you down![/url]

So, is this a subtle hint that amybe some U2 should get on AM?

Seriously Borfus, your post is excellent. Right on. I dig. Good job. Insert affirmation here.

[OverHillandDale(Admin)]

Thanks Borfus. well said.

[darksideof]

who is this idiot?

[KingRat]

Originally Posted by Borfus

Progressive music is about ....

Thank you for the music,

I know what I like and I get it here.

Thanks to all involved.

PS. Did ABBA not say "Thank you for the music"

[jtmckinley]

Originally Posted by KingRat

I know what I like and I get it here.

I know what I like, in my wardrobe...

[gambale]

I dont follow. What more does he wants? This is actually a vast variaty of the best progressive music produced. If its "decent music" he is after he must seek else where. This station is a bless for my progessive ears. Gambale

[Roger -Dot- Lee(Admin)]

Originally Posted by gambale

I dont follow. What more does he wants? This is actually a vast variaty of the best progressive music produced. If its "decent music" he is after he must seek else where. This station is a bless for my progessive ears. Gambale

He probably wants more Yes, Peter Gabriel, Genesis, and Rush.

Not that there's anything wrong with any of them, but if that's all you want to hear, then I'd suggest loosing your credit card on Amazon and leaving the rest of us in peace.

Just sayin'.

Roger -Dot- Lee, gettin' better, thanks.

[Moonoffruits96]

To say AM is unlistenable is total bull s**t
Those whom don't like leave
Btw we need u2 here

[jrstudioboss]

Before I found AM, I had been listening to radioparadise.com, good music, but a very broad spectrum, depending on who was DJing, and AM was a great change because it was more focused on the genre (and much better music at that). A few songs back, SAM played Wall of Voodoo's "Mexican Radio",WTF! Moono'd like some U2 (sorry to disagree with you little brother), what's next, Sanatra and Culture Club? Just because we individuals like an album and want to donate it, and no matter how great it might be, that doesn't necessarily mean it fits here (maybe I'll donate my Spike Jones and C. W. McCall collections!). I make a living as a sculptor, but I've been known to paint on occasions, and when you mix together too many colors, no matter beautiful they may be, you get a real shitty brown, and there are times I find AM losing its vivid hues and starting to smell a little funny; maybe we have reached the time and place to define just what constitutes "prog", and cull out the square pegs - at least from SAM's playlist, if not from the RQ library. Personally, I can't stand the sound of Jon Anderson's voice, but he and Yes are all but foundational in the genre and most of my fellow moonies love them, but are there really enough of us who actually enjoy Sun Ra, Magma, Miles, etc. that necessitates their inclusion - would we be at a loss without them? Maybe just the fact that this thread exists and has grown to this size in three weeks, in and of itself says that we have a problem.