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Old 04-18-2004, 07:11 AM
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Flamewars make my teeth itch (was re: What a response)

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First i want apologize for my reaction as a new member. But when i see the forum i get a lot of reactions.
that you did. It's generally considered rude to dive into a forum that you haven't been involved with in an argumentative manner.

Unless, of course, you're on Usenet. Then it's expected. Especially in alt.flame

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I still be a listener to this great radio, because there are less places where you can find progressive music.
The interest for this musci start 4 years a go. When i listen to music like dream theater, rush, transatlantic,IQ, spock's beard and flower king.
A good start, but definitely not what I would consider a wide representation of that what we call 'Progressive'.

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But now i want to go farther in this music, because there is much more music than those groups in the genre progressive music.
An admirable goal. But one doesn't learn much by immediately criticizing the playlist after listening for a couple of days/weeks. We have thousands upon thousands of songs (well over 11,000 and growing on a weekly, sometimes daily basis). All hand picked by Avian and Program Director Jim.

If you don't like what you're hearing at the moment, stick around. It'll change. And request something you'll like.

(only try to avoid Godspeed You! Black Emporer, please. :P )


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I can say: progressive music you can define in different ways
Correct. And it goes quite a ways beyond Yes, Rush, Pink Floyd, and The Moody Blues. Stick around. Ya might learn something.

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Old 04-18-2004, 07:38 AM
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Hi lee

i want to thank you for your respond. When i read all the reactions i can only say: Every day is a day that you can learn and discover more proressive music.

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Old 04-18-2004, 12:50 PM
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The official workers at this station (Avian and ProgDirJim) and to a lesser extent the lesserlings (Roger.Lee, theoriginal_ib, ExtendedPlay, myself...)
Did you get promoted?
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Old 04-18-2004, 12:55 PM
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Re: suggestions...

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and since you like Deram Theater/Transatlantic style...


The Jelly Jam
Jelly Jam style like those? Huh?
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Old 04-18-2004, 03:38 PM
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Did you get promoted?

Yes... BrainRock is coming.
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Jelly Jam style like those? Huh?
not exactly, but it's the same revolving troup of ten players or so.
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Old 04-18-2004, 03:51 PM
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Not Morgenstein

the drummer, he was in the dregs and god forbid - Winger!

only Myung is the same.

oh btw Wojtek - thank you for your insightful posts in this thread. thay are very well thought out.

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Old 04-18-2004, 09:11 PM
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Re: Not Morgenstein

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the drummer, he was in the dregs [...]
You make it sound like an accusation! :P

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oh btw Wojtek - thank you for your insightful posts in this thread. thay are very well thought out.
Say on Brother Rick.

Personally, I think I'm just going to take a step back from these inflammatory threads for a few days. It almost seems like we're starting to wage war on one another.

I get enough of that crap from my ex-wife and my brother's ex-wife. I don't need it on my off hours, too.
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Old 04-18-2004, 10:44 PM
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an apology

Hey transatlantic. Sorry about coming down so hard on you right off the bat. I think maybe I was having a crappy day and that was the last straw. Anyway, I'm glad you'll be sticking around. All those bands you mentioned in your posts are legitimate choices for good bands. By listening to AM, I'm sure you'll meet many many more. Ask Keith Waye. He's bought over 60 cds in the past twelve months from stuff he's heard on AM. That's over one a week. Wow.
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hello Transatlantic!

I can also recommend you some very good bands and it´s albuns:

Eloy - Ocean; Power and the Passion; Ocean2; Dawn; Colours
Novalis - (German lyrics) - Sommerabend; Brandung
Ramses - La Leyla ; Eternity Rise
PLJ Band - Armaggedon
Tisaris - Once Humanity
Grobschnitt - Grobschnitt; Ballermann; Jumbo; Rockpommel´s Land; The History of Solar Music Vol. 1,2,3 and 4
Errata Corrige - Siegfried, Il Drago e altre story
Tiamat - Wild Honey
Par Lindh Project - Gothic Impressions; Bilbo (with Bjorn Johansson); Baroque Impression; Veni, Vidi, Vinci
Bo Hansson - Lord of the Rings (Sagan om Ringen); Magician Hat
Jane - All 70´s albuns; Ressurection

Well I ´ve forgot some band...Yesspaz have included in its reply some of them.
So try it these bands, you´ll not br regret!

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Epics

Hi

Thanks for the bands you named. I will heard if those bands are good for me.

The band Trnasatlantic has many epics (long play numbers) Anybody know bands who also play epics???
I like epics because most of the songs are very good. The songs are divided into separate parts. Each parts has his own story and music. When you put all the story's to one pease than it is a great song to listen

See for your self pink floyd, genesis, yes, dream theater (Six Degrees of Inner Turbulence cd 2) and flower kings etc

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Old 04-23-2004, 07:36 AM
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Discipline

check out "Unfolded Like Staircase". Four tunes, each 12-20 minutes.
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Old 04-23-2004, 01:38 PM
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Epics

If you like experimental stuff, Godspeed You Black Emperor! does some long stuff, in the 15 to 30 minute range.

Focus has some long stuff.

Mogwai has an EP that's a 20 minute instrumetal called "My Father My King"

King Black Acid is a good try for "mind-altering neo-psych jams" as one reviewer put it. Heck, their fourth album is even called "King Black Acid Loves a Long Song."

And Tarentel is quite good at the extended neo-Kraut type stuff.

Speaking of which, try Autobahn by Kraftwerk.

Finally, never overlook Mike Oldfield. I've noticed that you name a lot of very famous proggers. Surprised Oldfield is not one of them. Go to the requests and try out Tubular Bells, Tubular Bells III, Ommadawn, Incantations, Hergest Ridge, the Taurus cycle, Amarok, The Wind Chimes, and The Lake (There are others, Tubular Bells II is on AM in a chopped up form. There is also The Songs of Distant Earth, but it's not on AM).

In short, LOTS of long prog songs on AM. Everything listed above is on AM for you to sample, with the exception if the Mogwai. Enjoy.
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Hi All,

In the liner notes to the King Crimson 1998 live album Absent Lovers, Robert Fripp says: "Professor Bill Martin (in his Listening to the Future) puts the period of 'progressive' as 1968 -1978". Fripp also makes reference to the "quintessentially English nature of 'progressive'".

Obviously those narrow parameters would severely limit a station like Aural Moon, so there needs to be a broader approach to include music from all over the world, both new and older that embraces the spirit of "progressive".

For me, the conceptual depth and high quality of the musical and lyrical content and the high level of musical training and ability is what signifies "progressive".

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Re: Epics

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Go to the requests and try out (...) Amarok,
PLEASE DON'T!
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PLEASE DON'T!
LMAO Woj.............I thought that was your favourite Oldfield album. At least, you always threaten to play it for me when I get into a Tales from Topographic Oceans mood.
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Old 05-03-2004, 11:26 AM
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i found my progressive epic band

Hi

I have taken the advice of you people and i download the cd of the band Eloy. The cd Ocean 2. Whow this album is very. I wished i have heard of this band some 10 years ago.

Anyone more ideas for epics

Guys you gave me the advice listen to king crimson. Conclusion: This is not my band. This music is to old for me.

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Old 05-03-2004, 11:55 AM
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Eloy

I thought they were old too!

I mentioned Discipline a few posts back.......check it out you'll like them.
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Transatlantic, be careful about 'downloading' music. What is great about the music on this site is that it is not commercial, meaning that the musicians sacrificed money and fame in order to concentrate on the art or music. Most of these musicians are more talented than commercial artists, and more true to their craft. This generates music that is relevent, inovative, and music that truely 'progresses'(keeping with the thread theme) into unexplored sonic territory. Most of these great artists don't get the respect they deserve and unfortunately don't get paid for their talent, yet commercial musicians make fortunes. My point-- download music to discover new sounds, which I am guilty of, but remember to help support them by actually purchasing an album once in awhile. This is not a flame, just a general reminder, for myself as well. I still have to sign up for that higher bandwidth Aural Moon account !
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