Ok so is it 13/8 or not???

[lenron]

Ok, so I am *supposed* to be a musician who has played in progressive bands, and I am *supposed* to be familiar with everything from playing in odd time to playing in no time to playing multiple times on top of each other. Technically, yeah I am supposed to be that.

Well, apparently I've tons to learn (duh) and I cannot figure out the main progression/riff in "Frame By Frame" by King Crimson. The secondary part, the 7/8 part, is understandable, even with the time shifting of the 2nd guitar to create an echo effect. But its the main part, the intro part, that I can't quite grasp yet.

Aside from Fripp's 16th note flurry of a riff, there is a matter of not being certain what signature the whole darn thing is in. I've been told 13/8, but I can't find it as easily as I thought I could. Somehow I either A.) listen inaccurately and get distracted by the whole beautiful mess or B.) make an assumption, musically, of what is happening and then realize it was a wrong assumption.

Could someone shed some light on what's going on in there, or at least an opinion? Its been bugging me this week. Visual aids would be great. hehe.

What-Kind-Of-Lame-Prog-Musician-Am-I Nino (lenron)